Naz only trained 5 weeks for the Kelley fight. He had personal problems leading up to the fight as well. Also he completely abandones the gameplan he was given as he wasnted to put on a good show for his first time in the US and prove to Kelly that he was the better puncher. The KDs were balance issures more than anything. He was still with Ingle at this point but there were massive problems in the camp.
the legend of "ingle gym hamed", a mythical figure that exist in the hearts and minds of his uk fans.
Under Brendan Ingle naz was focused , disciplined and freakishly powerful - dont get it twisted with the lazy celebrity Naz that lost to Barerra , that was a charicature of the real hamed and he deserved his arse kicking . Its not impossible to think Naz would be capable of knocking out manny at 126 pounds - anything over 130 and manny beats him like a ginger step child.
You're joking right?This is another wind up thread,right?Ok,reality time. Kevin Kelley:In the 2 1/2 years leading up to the Hamed fight,was stopped once and drew twice by fighters whose names you or I will never remember.In other words,past it and NOWHERE NEAR elite at that point. Tom Johnson:33 when he fought Hamed and drew just a fight or 2 before facing Hamed and lost again just a couple of fights after fighting Hamed.In other words,past it and NOWHERE NEAR elite at that point. Vasquez:At least 36 when he fought Hamed and with 7 losses already to his credit.In other words,NOWHERE NEAR elite at that point. Bungu:Even though he had fought once or twice at featherweight earlier in his career,when he fought Hamed,it was his 1st foray as a full fledged and permanent featherweight.Why is that significant?Because in 2 of the 3 fights immediately preceding the Hamed fight,he won a split decision and a majority decision(against Danny Romero,a pretty good 122 pounder).In other words,he was NEVER AN ELITE featherweight. Marco Antonio Barrera D 12 Naseem Hamed in Hamed's 1st fight against an elite featherweight.Hamed has a decent resume against some pretty good alphabet beltholders,but the actual 1st time Hamed fought an elite,he was comprehensively outboxed.By the way,is there anyone out there that believes that Kelley,Bungu,Vasquez or Johnson were anywhere near MAB's level?Just curious.
Even more Hamed excuses.It's astonishing how you Hamed supporters can make so many.I believe that you Hamed supporters don't even believe that you're making excuses
LOLOLOL Hamed "Ingle Gym" version is prime Hamed. Face it, at 27 years old Hamed faced something he had no answer for - an elite boxer. If his "prime days" where years before then Hamed is more limited than I thought. He was good. Just not in the same level as the 4 greats of his time (MAB, JMM, EM and Pac). No matter how you slice it, dice it, **** on it, eat it, **** it, **** it... Hamed loses to every time against those 4 greats - 9 out of 10 (punchers chance).
Thank you. It's so convenient that the Ingle version of Hamed happily coincides with the timeframe before Hamed stepped up opposition. Maybe if Jeff Lacy had changed trainers prior to Calzaghe and then retired after that fight, people could say the same thing about him. :rasta
I could have believed you except that Pac is a southpaw!!!!! Jesus!!!!! That is why I hate ESB. Full of dumb idiots!
Hamed is a good fighter but unproven at the elite level. He loss his first fight at the elite level and quit. Pac kept fighting even after losing to Morales and twice to Marquez.That's the difference.Who knows what he could have done had he kept fighting the likes of Marquez and Morales. Trilogy with Morales or a 2 fight series with Marquez. Is he capable of beating the two? he has the power to drop the 2 that's for sure.
@ the TS: Good question! I'd go with Pac in this one. There are plenty of ways one could over analyze this fight but in the end the simplest way of putting it is that Pac could take the Prince's punch better then the Prince could take Pac's punches.