Dream fight with fighters from older tines and the new generation.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by tomj, Aug 16, 2011.


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  1. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Thanks. Yeah, I personally don't think Donaire would stop him (Based on Canizales/Jones) but I haven't seen much of Orlando, and was just asking you guys in case you'd seen more of Canizales (which you evidently have). Canizales is one of those fighters, I feel, who just has a granite chin. I mean, some of the shots he took from Junior Jones in R4 of their fight were just shocking, and he just ate them, without blinking. It was the way he took the shots which stood out to me, like in Marquez v Katsidis, Michael eats some hellacious bombs in the first 3 without getting hurt/wobbled, but the way he takes the punches, suggests that his chin has a limit IMO, whereas Canizales looks like he could take them all night and tomorrow morning, if you know what I'm saying.

    Orlando's punching form is fantastic. Very clean and nice to watch.

    Yep, Wilfredo Gomez was a beast. Lot's of guys would just simply get really hurt if they were in the ring with him H2H.

    :good
     
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  2. Moe Greene

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    Weight drained above his usual weight? Both failed to make the weight IIRC.

    And no, he was a fluid and rounded beast. But the heat going into that fight was big. And Zarate was done after the first beautiful shot Gomez landed. The pummeling that followed was just the icing on the cake. Zarate has never come back from anything before. The biggest adversity I've seen him go through pre-Gomez was his title winning effort against quality southpaw Rodolfo Martinez, a big Bantam with experience. Zarate was stiffened by a cross in the mid-rounds that remains the only time I've seen him hurt pre-Gomez (including the Zamora fight) and had to rally to batter the champion out of the ring in the 11th IIRC. But Gomez just took the game away from him, and after outfoxing him, beat him up.

    No worse than Benn-Barkley IMO. The first few rounds made one thing clear: Zarate was never going to catch up to Gomez. The finish made another thing clear: Zarate was never going to be able to do anything to Gomez.

    Great performance, the ferocity Gomez springs into remains a sight to behold.

    Don't cry LP, Mexico got their revenge ;-) :deal

    Next up: Donaire Vs Prime Duran at Lightweight :bbb
     
    Moe Greene, Aug 16, 2011
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  3. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    yep, Zarate always strikes me as a massive Bantamweight, think he moved straight back down after the fight. they both failed at first attempt, think Zarate 2 or 3 times
     
    LP_1985, Aug 16, 2011
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  4. Moe Greene

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    I know Gomez was a notorious party animal. I'm not certain about Zarate :good

    Zarate was a big Bantam for the time, today he'd make the weight with ease, Hell, hee might even make super-fly with a day to spare ;-) But I think he was 5'8. Formidable.

    He remains arguably the hardest puncher in the divisions history (though Jofre, Olivares, Borkorsor and, ahem, Nonito might have something to say about that)
     
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  5. tomj

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    Joan Guzman vs Duran at lightweight. Also Guzman vs Corrales.
     
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  6. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Pryor-Benitez at 140.
    R. Leonard-Gavilan at 147
    B. Leonard-Duran at 135
    Langford-Hagler at 160.
     
    GazOC, Aug 16, 2011
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  7. Moe Greene

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    You are having a laugh? Or do you just not like Guzman?
     
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  8. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Ray Leonard vs ATG Ajose Olusegun
     
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  9. Moe Greene

    Moe Greene Guest

    :good
     
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  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Its up there with Guzman-Duran!!:good
     
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  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I sense there's a fair few hating matchups here :hey

    Don't start with this ''Duran hates movers'' or ''Duran has a glass chin because Hearns chinned him'' stuff :yep

    Arguello vs Duran at 135
    De La Hoya vs Benitez at 140
    Victor Ortiz vs Brandon Rios - I just wanna see this explode :fire

    Hating matchups....

    Haye vs Bowe
    Berto vs Leonard
    Mayweather vs Hearns
    Pavlik vs Hagler
    Bute vs Benn
    Dawson vs Saad
    Haskins vs Galaxy
     
    Beeston Brawler, Aug 16, 2011
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  12. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    Sanchez Vs Argeullo
     
    LP_1985, Aug 16, 2011
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  13. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Some good hating ones there. Haskins-Galaxy might be a step too far though........;O)
     
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  14. Moe Greene

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    If Sal' had done as expected and jumped up 'two' (well, one really) weightclasses to fight Alexis at 135, I would imagine that the expression on his face might finally have changed ;-)

    A legendary fight: I've seen a fight with Sal' where he weighs 129 and looks exactly the same (admittedly against a journeyman) so Sanchez Vs either Floyd/Alexis @ 130 is endlessly intriguing.
     
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  15. JukeboxTimebomb

    JukeboxTimebomb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gamboa V's Naz. This would be like the Kevin Kelly fight only more spectacular, or Naz would just switch Yuri's lights out in the first. Either way it would be amazing.
     
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