The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Ortiz has over like 15 fights at WW. :deal

 

nope. they fought at 145 +1 meaning they agreed on catchweight of 146.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/126305-breaking-news-berto-ortiz-reach-agreement

do you still think berto is a legit WW win for ortiz according to your pac-cotto logic? should ortiz have an asterisk on his win according to your logic?

 

Ortiz has over 15 WW fights at WW by your logic. :good

 

Well you said that pac-ortiz wasn't a true ww fight and that was at the same weight, as was whittaker-chavez.

Wrong, by this point there was nothing legitimate about the lineage which is why it had very little value until lewis unified the division again.

 

Cotto never beat the #1 guy @ 140, 147 or 154.

 

must be very memorable and meaningful fights.

 

Regarding bald, he was rightfully the ibf, wba, wbc and ring champ. Noone can ever deny that.

To establish himself as the premier ww he'd have needed to beat margo instead of gatti.

 

What were my exact words?

 

Why?

Because YOU say so?

Sorry to disappoint you but it don't work that way.

 

What's NOT subjective is the official decision once the fight is over.

Spinks W12 Holmes in the rematch

Briggs W12 Foreman

 

So now it only counts if they are meaningful? :rofl

 

Yep.

 

what does this had to do with Nay_Sayer saying he doesn't consider pac's cotto win a legit WW win since it was fought at catchweight? :huh

 

I *never* said that. Please go back and re-read exactly what I wrote...

 

here is your quote that's why i asked you if you consider ortiz' win over berto a legit WW win.

now do you claim otherwise?