For all the people that say a Prime Muhammad Ali would beat either of the Klitschkos

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  1. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali=greatest ever heavyweight. quite possible greatest boxer EVER

    Klits= top 30 heavyweights on a good day

    conclusion= you are a nuthugger who doesnt know boxing. ali wouldnt lose to an old Lennox Lewis or corrie sanders lol
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    right... so the stupid ones are the ones who say that a prime Ali would beat the Klitschkos

    lmfao
     
  3. haworths623

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    It is true that the bro's would beat most of the great heavyweights throughout history due to their size advantage (however Ali is not one they would), hw's these days are a lot bigger but P4P neither brother approach the top 20 all time heavyweights.
     
  4. TboneNYC

    TboneNYC World Champion Full Member

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    He would.

    Sorry but your the one who needs to get a clue doc!
     
  5. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would be happier to have Purrity, Sanders and Brewster on my loss record as Doug Jones, Henry Cooper and Leon Spinks.:good
     
  7. PaiN_KiLLeR

    PaiN_KiLLeR Harder than nails Full Member

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    Too much is being made about this size advantage. There have been some A-list boxers of this size in the past, but they have never dominated the division. It is a factor, but certainly not the most important factor, as some people here wrongly think.

    Primo Carnera was as tall as Vitali, with an even greater reach than Vitali. But he had the **** beaten out of him in his fights against 6'2" boxers like Max Baer and Joe Louis.
    Gerry Cooney was as tall as Wladimir, with an equal reach. He never became Heavyweight champion.
     
  8. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    When did Ali lose to Cooper or Jones? He was knocked down by Cooper but if a kd counts as a loss in your book, then Wlad's record must look ****ing awful.

    And I'd rather have Foreman and Frazier x2 on my record than both brothers resumes combined. Not to mention Liston, Norton, Patterson etc.
     
  9. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watch the fight. Ali lost to Jones, And Dundee had to cheat by riping Ali's glove and give him smelling salts to get him by a bum like Cooper..
     
  10. killuminix

    killuminix yes im back Full Member

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    ffs boxing is all about skills not size :patsch
    didn't jeo farzier and tyson proved that size deosnt matter its all about skills and when it comes to skills ali was the best at that besides sander,purity, and brewster were all smaller guys im not saying ali would ko wlad or that wlads style woulnt give ali problems it would be a tough fight were both guys but ali had incredible ring iq im not nuthugging or saying that ali is god cause hes not neither is wlad or vitali and sooner or later they meet their match
     
  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    and they can both be presidents of 2 different countries at the same time... quit giving the brothers a reason for people to hate them...
    wlad was knocked out 3 times , vitali has 2 losses in the book... all of muhammad ali losses came as he was on the downside of his career, never in his prime....he was knocked down by sonny banks in his early career, but wlad was knocked out by ross purity early in his career...
    obviously you are a young kid who knows **** about boxing other than right now..and its horrible right now...no one knows who would win...but one thing no one can dispute is muhammadli fought better competition mile a mile...and not the klits fought, but just a fact.
    name a guy today who is remotely an opponent to a klitschko who has at least accomplished something and was a legitimate threat to the klits who was say even a ken norton type threat to ali

    ken norton
    george foreman
    joe frazier
    sonnly liston
    lary holmes
    Tomas Ademek = Jerry Quarry
    Sam Peter = Joe Bugner
    kingpin johnson = alfredo evangelista

    the klits are without a doubt the best of the 2000's and counting

    ali was the best of his time

    if you want to make stupid comparisons that no one will ever be right about, then you have to match up their caliber opponents and what they accomplished in their career.....that will tell you at least what a win meant or didnt mean....
    if ali had 20 defenses, title fights or whatever..if 11 were against current or future or past champions , it hold more weight...as well as their age win they fought

    a Ali KO12 Floyd Patterson
    holds a little more value than
    wlad ko12 eddie chambers

    even though its a good win for wlad...whats eddie known for ? is he in the same book with floyd patterson as ever being anything other than a challenger ? floyd and eddie are probably 2 of the nicest guys in the world though
     
  12. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I could never compeare Ali's career with the Klitschkos because Ali is believed to had some fixed fights. It's like compearing the great Alexander Karelin's wrestling record with Randy "Macho Man" Savage..........
     
  13. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Yeah, the extra couple of seconds Dundee bought him really made the difference. Ali has the best Heavyweight resume ever and proved his greatness by beating a score of tremendous fighters. You don't have to pretend he'd win some fantasy fights to build him up, his record speaks for itself.
     
  14. simon850

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    There is no way Wlad or Vitali beat Ali no chance.

    I'm disturbed by what I have been reading though, why did you let a man suck your *****?
     
  15. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali was never "knocked out" only stoppage was by Holmes (TKO) and let's be real Ali was in no way fit to fight.