Amateur VS Pro boxing, what are the differences?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Cuban Bon Bon, Aug 18, 2011.


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  1. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: Yet another topic you're talking about where you have no idea. You've obviously never boxed before or you'd know that it's the same sport, the headgear is just for show and the way the scoring system has been for a few years only clean power shots count for the idiots spouting that old 'it's just fencing' line.
    The top amateurs dominate the pro game. Often by the time amateurs fight for a world title as a pro their skills have diminished from fighting bums, to win anything at the amateurs you have to beat the best. You look at a guy like Tszyu and he was far more athletic and skilled as an amateur, even the older shitter version of him was able to unify a division in the pro game.
    All those attributes you mention are stronger in amateur fighters apart from stamina. Youtube Vasyl Lomachenko and you'll see a fighter who is better than any fighter you'll see in the pro game apart from maybe Mayweather.
     
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  2. Cuban Bon Bon

    Cuban Bon Bon Proverbs 9:10 Full Member

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    I highly agree with you my friend. I have also notice that what you stated also happens to the Cuban amateurs. I have noticed that they are actually better, more skilled while in the amateurs as they keep them 100% sharp, 7 days a week in order to compete in the constant tough Tournaments. You are right, by the time the top amateurs fight for a pro Title they have fought between 15 to 20 bums and their skill level drops drastically. The International Tournaments are extremely difficult, more than the pros in terms of pure skill not physical. In those Tournaments the amateurs have to face between 6-8 top amateurs that sometimes have never seen nor heard about them, without studying tapes nor having months to prepare. In the pros, they get to pick their opponents ( most of the time ) and can watch videos and have months to prepare. Both Worlds are very tough but the amateurs are more difficult in the sense that it requires a higher skill and a more tactical game plan to win a Gold Medal.

    We are the only few people here that see that point! :good
     
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  3. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, that's why it's good to see Rigondeaux go for the tough competition straight away. The timing, distance and boxing skill that the top Cubans and Eastern Europeans display at the top levels of Amateur competition have and always will transfer directly to any version of boxing. I guess it's their loss if people can't appreciate boxing skills just because they are attached to amateur boxing. Any old inexperienced bum can become a pro boxer, to do anything in the amateurs you need to be a skilled, in shape athlete. Also anybody who is involved with boxing will have plenty of stories about amateurs dominating pros in sparring, it happens all the time. Being a pro doesn't give you special powers, it just means you're fighting for money instead of for the love of the sport.
     
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  4. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What the **** are you on about? :lol:
     
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  5. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After seeing some of the rising amateur stars, you can see the difference. Some of our hopefuls are getting their work cut out to them by low level pros
     
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  6. Cuban Bon Bon

    Cuban Bon Bon Proverbs 9:10 Full Member

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    Totally true. If you look at Odlanier Solis' best days as an amateur he was in great physical shape and was sharp as a razor and look at him now. Not that he is bad now but since he defected he ballooned to 270 pounds and he is fighting now at a possible 60% of the old amateur Solis. The Cubans specially have a major problem when becoming pro as they think that since they were stars in the ams that they will also be stars in the pros automatically and don't train properly. Add to that the immense distractions, the all you can eat new foods, the liquor and the drugs, the women, the party life styles and they end up really bad.

    This is why many top Cuban amateurs don't make it big in the pros and end up being critized. But there are other Cubans that don't take that route and keep focus like Gamboa, Lara, Rigondeaux, Mike Perez, Salinas, and others that are bringing back Cuba on the pro boxing map. I am not surprised at all at what you said of top ams beating up pros in sparring sessions as their technique and level is better.

    In my opinion, any top amateur that was a very successful one at the absolute highest level can be pro World Champion if he keeps focus and trains properly. There are also other factors like having a natural chin and KO power that's also a must for the pro game. :good
     
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  7. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fights are shorter with headgear so they are more dynamic. KO chances are lower so accuracy counts more than power.
     
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  8. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you both are clueless and clearly have an agenda

    :hat
     
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  9. Cuban Bon Bon

    Cuban Bon Bon Proverbs 9:10 Full Member

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    Whatever ... :nut
     
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  10. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry The Reverse Somersault! Full Member

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    Groves vs DeGale looked like an amateur fight fought on the pro stage. Alot of trying to collect points instead of taking chances.
     
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  11. artful

    artful *practice makes perfect* Full Member

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    two words Audley Harrison :deal
     
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  12. Stevenson#1

    Stevenson#1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only difference is .... MONEY ( imo ) . Peace .
     
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  13. Stevenson#1

    Stevenson#1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You will be proved WRONG when AIBA gives the OK for Pro boxers to compete at the Olympics . Peace .
     
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  14. Stevenson#1

    Stevenson#1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post . Peace .
     
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  15. Stevenson#1

    Stevenson#1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah but that was due to politics ( like with all elite cubans ) not for lack of skills , any Cuban elite amateur boxer can make the transcition faster than you think . Peace .
     
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