Cuba, the best 4 Latin Boxers of all times, Chocolate, Napoles, Gavilan and Rodriguez

boxers of every country get robbed in international competitions not just the cuban, in fact i think cubans get the benefit of the doubt more so than any other country because their reputation in the amateurs so stop crying,

besides i was refering to the last olympics where stevenson claims that they got robbed so tell me which fight in beijing you guys lost because of highway robbery and because the chinese government was betting on the fights

and lastly trinidad wouldve won gold at the 1992 olympics if it wasnt for our boxing federation corruption that didnt want to send him and instead send anibal acevedo who trinidad had beaten three times already so trinidad turned pro.. acevedo won bronze i know trinidad wouldve won gold

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I am not crying, just stating the fights that I have watched. I don't know anything about that chinese conspiracy theory but it was very weird that not 1 Cuban got Gold, it's the first time since Castro that happens!

" and lastly trinidad wouldve won gold at the 1992 olympics " ...

Not to put Tito down but winning Gold for him at the 1992 Olympics would had been extremely difficult and this is why.

Cuba had it's best Team ever at the 1992 Olympics. I am not sure on what weight would Tito fought but Cuba won 8 Golds at that Olympic. Most likely he would had fought a Cuban and man those Cubanitos were winning almost all of the weight classes.

Names of the Cubans who got Gold at the 1992 Olympics:

Light Flyweight: Rogelio Marcelo CUB

Bantamweight: Joel Casamayor CUB

Light Welterweight: Héctor Vinent CUB

Welterweight: Juan Hernández Sierra ( Silver ) CUB ( defeated Acevedo of PUR 11:2 ).

Light Middleweight: Juan Carlos Lemus CUB

Middleweight: Ariel Hernández CUB

Heavyweight: Félix Savón CUB

Super Heavyweight: Roberto Balado CUB

If Trinidad would had competed at that 92 Olympics he would have possibly faced Cuba's Sierra. Sierra was a beast, a super tall southpaw with very fast hands and technical as well. I don't know why he got Silver. :huh

Either way, Sierra was also Amateur World Champion so that also equals a Olympic Gold medal. Either way, it would have been very hard for Tito to get Gold but not impossible of course.

 

fukk that Juan manuel Marquez Knocks out Joel Casamayor out

 

its not weird is called surprises and upsets just because you're a favorite doesnt mean you'll win

and trinidad couldve beaten vinent or sierra he had the talent and wouldve had the expirience had he not turned pro 2 yrs earlier

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When I was talking about the Cuban boxing team perfomance during last Olympics I was giving my OPINION about a fact , it's not a " conspiracy " like you like to call it , it's my opinion and yes Cubans got ROBBED big time in those games , not only Cuba but ALL the other boxing powernations ( Russia , USA and some east European nations ) got ROBBED too . You ask for proof of this and of course I don't have one , if I did I would have been a very rich guy by now or more probably I would be dead . Everybody knows the Chinese love for gambling plus if you add the power of the Chinese triads ( mob ) and the corruption of the Chinese goverment then it doesn't take a genius to put two and two together and start smelling something fishy . The Chinese goverment was under enormous pressure to stage a good tournament , both for international AND domestic opinion , the year before the games started (07) there were numerous international protests about staging those games in a country with such a poor human rights record , also we can't forget that these were the first Games to be staged in a comunist country since Moscow 1980 so they had to put on a GREAT SHOW for their people too , and a great show in
comunists termology means MEDALS ( preferably gold ones of course ) , they had to surpass Russia in GOLD meadals ( old Chinese/Russian political rivalries
comes to play now ) . I ask you : ¿ don't you find odd that a country ( China )
with almost no boxing history ( am or pro ) and participating in the STRONGEST of amateur
boxing Championships ends up being the NUMBER 1 amateur boxing nation in
the world ? or ¿ don't you think it's a bit fishy that a nation with even less
boxing tradition like MONGOLIA ( strong Chinese ally since time in memorian )
finishes the boxing tournament in 3RD PLACE , in front of Russians , Americans , etc ? come on man , all I did was to give my opinion of something that for me and a lot of people looked OBVIOUS at the time , even the boxing pundits here in UK were smelling something fishy , EVERYTIME a Russian , Cuban , American or East European boxer fought an Asian ( Chinese , Mongolian , Korean , etc ) he ended up losing , only on rare ocasions , when the boxer was just too good , they gave them the desicion and only after this particular boxer had to do EXTRAORDINARY things in the ring just to show he was indeed the better man ( Lomachenko and Banteaux come to mind ) and don't tell me about the judges being from different nations , etc , ITS EASIER TO BUY AN AMATEUR JUDGE THAN A PRO ONE believe it or not , so that boxer who had to do superhuman stuff in order to defeat an Asian then ends up losing his next bout ( Quarter , Semi or Final ) to a boxer ( not necessarily Asian ) who in some cases he has already defeated many times before ( Ugas/Frenchman final ) . Like my Grandpa used to say : " too many potatoes for such a little sack " , do your maths , it just doesn't add up .I can understand if they fix Gymnastics or table tennis ( ping-pong ) after all the Chinese have always had a strong tradition in both sports ( only the Russians in Gymnastics and their fellow Asians in ping pong can challenge them but ¿ boxing ? ¿ No1 boxing nation in the world ? ! COME ON ! I know of your love and admiration for the Red Beast
and all that but in this case you're wrong , BEIGING OLYMPICS WERE THE BIGGEST FRAUD IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAMES ( with Berlin 1936 comming a close second place ) and A LOT of people share my opinion ( even your commie friends in the island ) . Accept it , there's no need for " proof " because there is ( and can't be ) none . Peace .

 

I highly agree with your post. Oye compay se te fué la mano escribiendo! But everything makes a lot of sense, the Chinese have never been anything in boxing and it's very suspicious that they ended up in first. We will know for sure in the next Olympics when we see the results. If the Cubans were robbed ( which I think so ), then they will shine again without a doubt! Saludos compatriota! :good

 

Hola compatriota , yes I was very angry at the way the Chinese goverment used the good name of the Olympics in order to show themselves to the World as the next emerging World Power ( wich they are anyway ) , they didn't fix just boxing ( one of their weakest ) but they also fixed ALL their weakest events ( swimming , athletics , etc ) in some way too , and of course fixing the Boxing Tournament was of paramount importance for them ( or any nation who's staging the games and wants MEDALS ) , Amateur boxing gives you the chance to win not one but NUMEROUS medals ( 11 diviciones ) that's why unfortunatly it's the one of the best events to fix , but this Puertorricane dude can't see it ( or don't want to ) and he argues for " proof " . I remember before the games started one of my friends ( who's a Thai ) told me NEVER to bet against the Chinese in these games and he was right , I knew before the games started that they were going to fix some events in order to look good but I must confess that I never expected in a million years that they were going to do it to such extremes . Like you said we'll have to wait till London to make comparitions but it won't be the same situation , the English have a different mentality than the Chinese when it comes to sport , as they said they like to play FAIR , no trampas , it's a mentality more atuned to the Cuban psych : we sometimes complain when we lose but we accept it if we lose in a FAIR way , we don't like trampas in sport so I have a good feeling about London . I forgot to add that this crack addict Puertorricane ALWAYS bash the cubans , unless you're a comuñanga like himself . Saludos . Peace .

 

Question for the Cubanos here...Who would y'all consider to be the best cuban fighter of recent decades since the great Jose Napoles?

 

Casamayor, but I think will b surpasse it by Gamboa (if fighters around his weight class, agreed to fight him), Salinas, Lara y Acosta had good chance, Rigondeaux will b my choice if he were more active.

 

Le pusiste la tapa al pomo! Asi mismo es compadre, vas a ver cuantos Oros cojemos en London. Tranquilo, cojelo suave con PuertoRicane. Saludos! :good

 

There's no doubt that it is Casamayor. He was the first to make it big in the US ( as Juan Carlos Gomez made it big in Germany at the same time ) and Casamayor was the first to put Cuba back on the pro boxing map. Joel was razor sharp in his prime and his only losses were very tight and controversial. In his only legit loss by KO against Marquez, Joel was already a bit passed his prime but no excuses as Marquez is a great one too. :good

 

Gamboa has already surpassed Casamayor in many ways. Comparing Casamayor's first 20 pro fights with Gamboa's 20 pro fights we can see that Gamboa has defeated 2 World Champions in Salido and Barros, and 1 former World Champion in Jorge Solis.

Gamboa also captured the Interim World Belt faster than Casamayor and also held the WBA-IBF ( something that Casamayor failed to do "due to a robbery" but that's another story ). Gamboa has also fought the tougher competition right from the start, ( in 20 bouts ). There's no doubt that Gamboa has and is still going to accomplish much more than Casamayor.

Rigondeaux, also can pass Casamayor but needs to be more active. The only bad thing going against him is his age but you never know, maybe el negrito can box strongly until his late 30's! :good

 

El Cepillo was badass. Was always one of my favorites to watch back in the early '00's. :good

Saludos!

 

I think Rigo could have been the Cuban George Foreman if he had signed with a diferent Promotion company , he has the mentality and discipline to be like him or BHop , if only he had signed with Oner .... now I think it's too late . Peace .

 

Agreed! I am happy that you liked one of our fighters. Yes, el Cepillo had some epic battles with Corrales and others. Man, Corrales was a tough son of a gun and Joel took it to him in their first fight! It seemed like Corrales' and Casamayor's style were perfect for each other. One super tall, powerful and aggresive and the other smaller, southpaw with amazing skills. Wow, those were fights!

Un saludo para ti y para todos nuestros hermanos Mexicanos! :good