Demetrius Andrade: Another fighter ruined by the Amateur system

Hilarious that Cubans are disputing the damage the Amateurs does to pro boxers, when many of their fighters dominate the Amateur system then get brutally exposed in the pro system.



Out of all the top flight Cuban amateurs that turned pro recenty, the only fighter who is progressing at a fast rate is Gamboa. And thats more to do with his natural ability then anything he learned in the amateurs Infact it was the amateurs who taught him that he could keep his hands down at his waist, which have resulted in several unnecessary KD's.

 

Well said.

 

Wlad was getting knocked out by journeymen, before Manny Steward molded him into a true professional fighter.


Floyd Mayweather was never taught an amateur style. Even in the amateurs he boxed with a pro style. Which probably led to his loss in the olympics where instead of running away flurrying, he boxed the guy like it was a professional fight.

Carl Froch gets away with amateur mistakes because of his height, length and chin.


Who has Rigondeaux beaten exactly? He's in a weak division so he'll probably get a belt.

 

Pound 4 Pound top 10

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Nonito Donaire
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Timothy Bradley
7. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
8. Giovana Segura
9. Andre Ward
10. Bernard Hopkins



How many of these guys have great amateur backgrounds? Wlad and Ward and thats about it.

Nonito Donaire only had 76 amateur fights. Bradley had a bunch of amateur fights, but mostly within the United States, didnt compete at the Worlds or Olympics. Never won anything more the Bronze when it came to the National scene either.

So thats like 4 guys out of 10 with any sort of real amateur background. And only 2 who were really great.

 

There is a difference between dabbling and being a top flight world class amateur. Which is what im talking about.

Most of the guys on the P4P list had some amateur experience, but they turned professional as soon as they could.

Guys with hundreds of amateur bouts. For instance Andre Berto had over 200 amateur bouts. And next to Andre Ward and Wlad would be the most accomplished amateur on that list, only because he didnt win a gold at the olympics. If he won gold at the olympics, which he never got to compete in because he was disqualified in the trials, he'd be the most accomplished American amateur probably since Oscar. And where has all that amateur experience got him?


Lack of timing, lack of range, not knowing when to step on the gas in the fight. No ring awareness.


Just like I said before.

 

A cursory look at the pound 4 pound top 10 and you'll notice you dont need a top flight am pedigree to be the best in the world.

If that were the case where are all the gold medalists and the like? Oh yeah they stay in the ams until they are 30 years old competing at the olympics against 18 year olds. atsch