Re-writing records

the three ali losses would be Norton 2 and 3, and Shavers.

 

You wouldn't correct the loss to Chris John?

 

Or low-blowing Sharkey... that's three more losses and three less wins.

 

Monzons resume would be far better.

Home towers often got gift draws with him.

Aguilar
Severino x2
Ale Ali
Selpa
Lima

He was also robbed with hometown decisions for all 3 of his losses.

Massi
Cameiro - Wasnt home town but there was huge favor for the Brazilian fighting in Brazil.
Aguilar

If these wrongs were corrected he would have an undefeated resume of 96-0-3.

Even his other 3 draws are questionable and he could very well be 99-0.

 

JMM I had him losing both to pac, had him beating norwood, mab and john.

EM i have him winning the first with mab, beating diaz and maidana and have him losing the last two with mab.

 

This is what I do.
I consider every close/controversial fight as a draw/No Decisions which warrants a rematch.
KDs are the first things to decide who won the decision for me.
There are very few exceptions like Reggie Johnson himself claiming that Tarver beat him despite having 1:0 in KDs over him .
Ali's record for example is full of draws , he did not deserve his title shot when he got it.
I distinguish between a decisive stoppage like in Foreman vs Frazier 1&2 or Liston over Patterson 1&2 and counterfeit/forged stoppages like Jones over Griffin #2 , Ali "KO8" Foreman , Jones over Sosa , and I even count stoppages like Toney had over Nunn , Barkley and Charles Williamsas less than really telling because his opponents there were drained , same for Jones' "win" over drained Toney .
Same for stoppages over shot opponents like Toney over Holyfield and decisions like Jones over McCallum.
Same for stoppages over severely undersized opponents like Jones' over Pazienza and Vaca.
Same for not counting stoppage losses against a fighter (to a degree) like Castro's loss to Gomez or McCall's to Lewis (albeit for a much different reason in this 1)

 

Fair enough.

 

I think Peter Buckley would like this thread. Arguably he could add another 60 ish to the win column.

 

Max Schmeling should pick up two key wins against Sharkey and Uzcdun.

That would make his prime run a lot pretier.

 

wait you actually saw hopkins mitchell to know that it should be switched? were you there or is there really footage of hops debut floatin around

i would reverse taylor 1 but not calzaghe

and what happened in nielsen vs holmes

 

no I haven't seen it, but I spoke to someone who has on a forum a few years back and they said it could easily have been a draw.

some people on websites claim to have vhf copies of it but none have been able to share the love.

 

I don't understand the norton 2 example- norton barely landed anything in the first half of the fight...

 

Mayweather would have a loss on his record to Castillo.