Translation-Juan Manuel Marquez Breaks Down Mares VS Agbeko & The Fighters' Technique

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    The original video can be found here, as always:

    http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/tv/programas/golpe-a-golpe

    Enjoy.

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    Announcer Dude: Here we are in the Golpe A Golpe Ring, with Juan Manuel Marquez. We're going to try to dissect the fight between Abner Mares and Joseph Agbeko a bit. Let's see what happened. There's a lot to elaborate on with respect to this topic, because the fight gave so many points to analyze. Juan, with what do we begin?

    JMM (lookin' ripped): I think that here, the principal thing was the punches down below, which the referee counted as clean when they weren't. For example, in the 2nd round, that punch Abner Mares throws as a hook...Agbeko throws a punch to the liver, and slips, and then comes a graze from the hook of Mares, which scrapes his elbow. But because he was already moving with the force of slipping, he went to the canvas. I think that situation was important, and the low blows as well. The low blows that Mares threw were sometimes intentional, and sometimes not. Here we can see that a lot of the punches he threw were with intentions to hit low in the bland zones (sides of the body.)

    Announcer Dude: We're not going to reenact it, as we're not wearing foul protectors.

    JMM: No, but we can do them-

    Announcer Dude (laughs) No!

    JMM: But there are hooks to the liver that can land here , and you can block them (lands hook on elbow), but in you blocking them they can become low, exactly. But there are ones that are directly low, like the one when referee Mora gave him a count.

    Announcer Dude: Now, some of the others went right on the limit, Juan.

    JMM: That's right.

    Announcer Dude: On his belt line.

    JMM: Yes, but lots of times, the rules dictate that on the belt, punches landed on the lower part of the belt line are considered illegal. And so I think that in that situation, one has to be very careful as well.

    Announcer Dude: A fundamental part of the fight, without a doubt; the knockdowns and the low blows.

    JMM: That's right.

    Announcer Dude: Let's go to the real boxing, Juan.

    JMM: To technique.

    Announcer Dude: Where did Abner Mares surpass Joseph Agbeko at the start of the fight?

    JMM: We were elaborating on the last episode... it was important how Abner Mares was getting off his combinations on him (throws combinations), and the answer that comes from Joseph Agbeko, and Abner Mares would dodge them well (moves upper body). He would counter-punch his own returning combinations, and suddenly take some steps back.

    Announcer Dude: To move.

    JMM: Exactly. And he would start to rotate (rotates), get inside, throw his combinations, wait for a response, and he would bob and weave very well. He would take a step back, and then go back to getting his punches off.

    Announcer Dude: Now, the fight changes in the fourth round when the very hard right hand from Agbeko lands. How did he land that right hand, Juan? You explained it to me before and it's a very interesting moment.

    JMM: Yes. That right hand comes...so they're both throwing punches; Mares throws a jab towards Agbeko, Agbeko makes a quick move to the right (slips jab), and from there, he launches his own counter-punch with that same right hand.

    Announcer Dude: But he gets it with distance, at range.

    JMM: Exactly. With distance, he gets it there (repeats slip & counter), and then lands that hard right. That punch..

    Announcer Dude: Mares takes it bad.

    JMM: That punch is good for counterpunches.

    Announcer Dude: So do you evade the jab from this side, or the other? Or can you do it from either side?

    JMM: The jab, you can evade with your hand (parrys jab with open right glove), right here. Many times, it's better to move the waist (moves side to side), because they can feint the jab on you. You can do this (catches jab), as they feint, and at the moment throw a (left) hook with that same hand (announcer dude throws left hook as JMM leaves right hand out to parry), and you can connect it on me.

    Announcer Dude: Now, something that Joseph Agbeko has is an extraordinary jab, and he wouldn't just throw it by itself, but get behind (step into) a second one.

    JMM: Exactly. That's also very good. We saw how Agbeko would throw his jabs, and right after connect his right hand, which landed numerous times, along with that counter-punch which had him (Mares) real hurt.

    Announcer Dude: It's not easy to read Joseph Agbeko.

    JMM: No no no. He's a smart fighter.

    Announcer Dude: With resources (many tools).

    JMM: That's right. A difficult fighter, and one with technique, which is the principal matter, and one with combinations as well.

    Announcer Dude: Well fortunately, the rematch will come; there will be another edition of Mares VS Agbeko.
     
  2. Spitfire7

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    Interesting. Gracias, mi amigo.
     
  3. Bogotazo

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    Con gusto :good
     
  4. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for continuing to post these. Mexican fans are lucky to get this kind of technical analysis from modern greats like Marquez, Morales and Barrera. Marquez is particularly insightful.
     
  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Muchas Gracias for the translation!
     
  6. Spitfire7

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    Among the 3 greats (mab,em,jmm), i think marquez is by far the most intelligent (in terms of IQ in and outside of the ring). He could amply fill Maestro Nacho's shoes when the old man retires, even perhaps exceed him..
     
  7. Tar Baby

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    They should do subtitles.
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    It really would be a treat to see him mold young fighters. He recognizes both universal fundamentals, as well as what works for different bodies and styles. I've never seen that questioned posed to him.
     
  9. Outboxer

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    Marquez always seems like one of the most cerebral fighters around, both in the way he fights and the way he talks about boxing. I can only go by the translated text of what he says, but it feels like he gets a kick out of explaining this stuff, as if he enjoys breaking it down in his head and demonstrating it all. His sense of timing, distance and counter-punching are always good to watch. He also has a lot of heart and determination.
     
  10. Bogotazo

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    :good He really does get a kick out of it. His intonation says it all.
     
  11. Bogotazo

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    Anytime guys, thanks for posting.