archie moore vs roy jones jr lightheavy....

prime for prime, jones wins this on points. as great as moore was, jones at his best was too dynamic, too quick, too skilled for moore. moore had the better overall career but jones fought on a higher level at his peak imo. i'd make a killing betting all of you on this. see the charles-moore fights for the result of this one.

 

Serious ?

Moore by KO.

 

not sure. i'm not too quick to pick this one on moore being "better" at 175. more accomplished, certainly. but based on styles? This is similar to the hopkins/burley thread in that burley is given a great chance based on his similarity to jones. same here: jones could be given a great chance due to his similiarity to burley, who beat moore and never got a rematch

 

To me Jones was very average as a light heavyweight. He had limited power. He had a weak chin. He fought limited opposition. He had a low punch output. Archie Moore was one of the top two or three light heavyweights that ever lived. He would out think Jones, he would out punch Jones and he would catch him and hurt him badly .. Roy Jones could not keep Glen Johnson off him ... Moore would crush him ...

 

I don't think Archie has ever seen a man this fast who leads with hooks and crosses. Roy by a solid decision.

 

Moore had close to four times as many fights as Jones did ... to say Jones is going to show him anything new is hilarious ... JOnes was a great middleweight and possibly super middleweight but he was not a great light heavyweight as his devastating losses to Tarver, Johnson, Hopkins, Calzaghe proved ... Archie Moore was an all time great light heavyweight and would hurt Jones bad.

 

So that was a prime Jones in there with Johnson was it?

Jones was a ****ing excellent Lt Heavy at his best and pretty much domiated the division for 5 years despite being naturally smaller than almost every fighter he met. He scored some spectacular KO's at 175 and didn't show anything resembling a weak chin until he came back from Heavyweight at 35 years of age and his legs and reflexes were gone.

Anyway Archie has a few skeletons in his closet as well....KO'd in one by 15 fight novice Leonard Morrow in his 113th fight. I don't hold that against him that much in light of all he achieved but it's there just as Jones' shithouse post 2004 offerings are also there, which you seem to put so much stock in.

Somehow I think Jones gets marked harsher for his sub par efforts than Old Archie ever does.

 

Anyone that picks a weak chinned Roy Jones to beat a prime Archie Moore, has never SEEN a prime Archie Moore fight. They see on film a 40ish olkd Archie against a Marciano, Ali,Durelle, when Moore was 1/2 the fighter he was when he beat Jimmy bivens, Lloyd marshall,Harold johnson,Curtis Sheppard,Holman Williams,all tough
seasoned fighters of a tougher era than the opponents that Roy Jones fought. Old Archie
with his cross-armed defense, would sooner or later find the vulnerable chin of the faster Jones and sayonora !

 

Moore was a master at setting traps and he'll set some here as well. And with that left hand dangling at his thigh, Jones gets clipped and goes. It sure doesn't help matters that Archie was a great finisher and knew what to do when he had a guy hurt.

 

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Moore by KO, Jones up on the cards at the time.

 

People are concentrating on Jones getting sparked past his prime, Moore got starched in his prime and Jones is 1 of the biggest, most accurate, most powerful punchers he'd encounter. Moore also doesn't have the greatest record against quicker opponents, read Charles, Burley, Patterson - Moore's most similar opponents. Jones most similar opponent was probably Toney. Jones by KO or Wide UD, Moore with a punchers chance granted

 

Quite possibly..a jones victory would be likelier over the 12 round distance.

 

i think moore COULD be the favourite but like you noted, he may have trouble with someone of jones' speed. level of competition wasn't great but how many rounds did jones loses in his first 8 years or so at 175? maybe a dozen in total? moore set traps brilliantly but who's to say he catches jones clean? i honestly think it'd take more than a few hits to take jones out but it sounds on this thread like the first right that lands on jones will launch him into the front row

 

To be fair, it's not like this mother****er is glen johnson or anything nahmeans? He's the guy who debateably holds the KO record for gloved boxing. This matchup at least on the surface is like cannonballs versus paper. That being said, the Toney vs. Jones parallel is somewhat legitimate, about as much as a Burley over Moore one would be(low hands, fast, power in both hands, countering etc).