The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Floyd: 100million dollars or no fight

 

Yes please anyone over the age of 18 will be fine. :rofl

 

hows that? :happy

 

Good choice :good

 

LOL...so Manny had a fight lined up when he refused to go inside 24 days on testing cutoff, and broke off negotiations over it? Then proceeded to lie to the public regarding what they had agreed to and had to be corrected by the mediator...you're saying Manny was committed to a fight then? Dude, you seriously don't know **** about boxing and it's embarassing...work to get better man, don't settle for being this ignorant.

 

What the **** does this have to do with what you quoted?

 

I've heard Manny say he is ready and willing to fight Floyd whenever he's ready. I've seen PAC bend over backwards in accommodating all the special needs Floyd has in order to make this fight. Even after Floyd acted in such an unprofessional and irresponsible way in accusing PAC knowing damn well he had nothing to support those kinds of allegations. PAC giving into ALL of the OSDT requirements was MORE than PAC should have done after Floyd blatant attempt to damage PAC. And Had PAC and Floyd reversed roles, Floyd wouldn't have been as flexible and accommodating. He wouldn't have even entertained the idea of a fight and would have quickly labeled PAC as "DUCKING".

It's easy to be confident when the facts and logic stand firmly on your side. There's a reason Floyd bearing all this weight on his shoulders and why he's upset that he doens't get support. And there's no one for Floyd to fault but himself.....although he's stubborn and won't ever admit it. His ego and pride are too big.

As far as Bob trying to derail the fight.....Logically speaking it makes NO sense. Floyd vs PAC equals MONEY! That's the end all be all for Bob and it's not likely he was trying to throw this opportunity out the window. I don't trust Bob...but he's an easy character to predict when it comes to boxing and money.

 

So why do u keep going back to the FIRST negotiations? A lot has happened since then dumbass Ever since that first negotiations Floyd has continually moved the goal post. Floyd was to blame in the secod negotiation according to Greenburg, **** he was so much to blame, his team denied the whole thing from happening Then Floyd was quiet as **** going on "vacation" while the whole world called him a coward. Then Pac signs with Marquez, then here comes your ****** idol (as expected) blabbering his mouth about Pac again. Now c'mon Rep, let me see your twist on things. If u don't respond I'll understand as it is hard to argue with facts.

 

I don't have an "Idol", I'm grown. Secondly, PBF hasn't "moved the goal posts", he stance has been the same from the beginning, other than the concession he was willing to make after beating JMM. Once Manny and team were found to be dishonest multiple times, ditched the mediator to fight Clottey, he was clear in there would be no more cutoffs (this position hasn't changed).

I refer to the "first negotiations" because they were the most indepth, public, and meaningful negotiations to take place. If you want to call the second "negotiations" legitimate, that's fine, but the bottom line Manny didn't meet PBF's only demand...hence there was nothing to talk about. PBF wasn't silent while on vacation, he spoke (granted not as often as usual but he wasn't working so it probably wasn't high on his priority list), but he spoke none the less.

Floyd hasn't "blabbed" his mouth about Manny, he knows it's what's on people's minds and he addressed it, directly and clearly. The only point in this entire process that you could even remotely make the case that PBF was at fault for the fight not happening was after he had beaten back to back HOF fighters, gone through a lengthly negotiation (in which a mediator was brought in to assist that he fully cooperated with and made the 14 day concession), and was left out to dry by Manny's team, then proceeded to take a vacation and enjoy time with his family. Any time before or anytime after this one period of time, PBF has been very clear about his position on the fight.

 

So you are saying Manny has agreed to all testing demands made by PBF, and that's why you are so sure of your position? OK, well I guess we soon shall see, but when it becomes clear that he has not, we can then agree that he doesn't want this fight correct?

 

Yes.... Floyd wanted PAC to be RANDOMLY tested by a neutral party with no cut off. PAC agreed and it comes from his own mouth. If PAC says he needs a 14 or 7 day cut off I will say that PAC doesn't want the fight as bad as I thought. But if it comes down to 24 hours......or a post fight blood test It will be clear Floyd never wanted the fight to begin with.

 

That's fine, we'll agree to disagree for now. But if Floyd goes on another vacation or retires after fighting Ortiz, I don't want to hear any excuses from you. If Pac doesn't agree to the drug testing without a cut-off after this fight, then I'm gonna put the blame on Pac.

 

You are a bit dense?

How can someone agree to anything when they never even negotiated!

 

No idea why people still have high hopes about this fight happening. This isn't the first time BOTH teams talk about each other in order to help promote their next fights. Mayweather talked a lot about Pacquiao before his fight with Marquez, and some people said that fight made sense because Mayweather was preparing for a smaller opponent. Pacquiao was preparing for Cotto and they mentioned Mayweather all the way to help further promote it. Then comes the Mosley fight and people said that fight also made sense because team Pacquiao wanted Mayweather to beat Mosley anyway. Pacquiao went on to fight Clottey and they mentioned Mayweather all the way as well. Now the Ortiz fight and BOTH camps, Pacquiao preparing for Marquez, are mentioning each other all the way. Obviously people still say the Ortiz fight makes sense because he's a southpaw. This fight will never happen, both teams have been playing people for too long.

 

The blame for me already is on Pacquiao. and if the fight doesnt happen Pacquiao would've ducked the best fighter of his ERA! He turned it down once and if he turns it down twice then he ****ed boxing big time. I understand Mayweather is a better JMM and Pacquiao doesnt have a great chance of winning but you gotta have balls and take the fight. I've never seen mayweather turn down a challange. for Genaro, to Corrales and Castillo I mean come on