how come movers are almost considered techical fighters? while pressure fighters

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  1. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i see what you mean by sweet pea

    but about toney
    this is gonna sound werid
    but i think as technical fighter he is OVER RATED.

    yes he was great at shoulder rolls,philly shill etc

    but man thats almost all he ever did.

    mostly stand on one stop, slip,roll,duck,block shots
    while ofcourse its preety what he did,

    he didnt do much else,

    not all that much footwork,did not use other times of guards
    didnt throw many text book straight punches,

    and and i think he got hit more then people realize

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7V97tMr0ts[/ame]



    get over the **** talking etc, and you will see that
    he gets tagged quite often
    and has little footwork
     
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  2. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pressure fighters never get the love they deserve for their technical prowess when they have it. Mainly because they get hit more often than someone who fights defensively. But it depends on the fighter though. There are pressure fighters who are skilled and there are "runners" that have no substance and vice versa. But yeah, in general pressure fighters get a bum rap. This the era of the volume puncher though.
     
    bRoNeR**a**G, Aug 25, 2011
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  3. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Out of curiousity though, which "runner" that only jabs, jabs, right hands, and clinchs are you talkin about?
     
    bRoNeR**a**G, Aug 25, 2011
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  4. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Damn, no ****. Even if it is ineffective as hell.
     
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  6. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    unfortunate, but true
     
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  7. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    i dont know but i remember having a convo about p willy a few years back...

    i said he's just a southpaw black version of margarito but people tried arguing with me that he's more defensively sound and moves his head etc etc which is all bull****.
     
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  8. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Moves his head right into lead lefts hahaha
     
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  9. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    here is an example

    ali vs frazier

    ali moving around throwing the same jab jab jab right hand, then run away or clinch/illegally holding the head

    while frazier is cutting off the ring
    slipping, ducking.blocking etc
    making ali miss 90 percent of his shots

    then working the body, with various shots and angles


    then ali goes to doing the same crap again and again....

    guess many people watching
    will say frazier is a brawler with a big heart

    and ali is a being a wonderful boxer

    what the fcuk lol
     
    highguard, Aug 26, 2011
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  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Ali wasn't very good defensively.
     
    Leon, Aug 26, 2011
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  11. 12downfor10

    12downfor10 Guest

    His reflexes, footwork and the speed of his own attack makes him look like it though
     
    12downfor10, Aug 26, 2011
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  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    If you can avoid being hit, you are good defensively. Getting a bad stylistic matchup in a fight that has you tagged repeatedly past your prime doesn't mean you weren't good defensively.
     
    Bogotazo, Aug 26, 2011
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  13. boxingbull

    boxingbull Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post:good
     
    boxingbull, Aug 26, 2011
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  14. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Makes sense. I was just about to join the "Lets bash boxers that runs"-crusade, but you just threw me off :think
     
    AnotherFan, Aug 26, 2011
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  15. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i am not talking about if ali was good defensively or not

    he was good at some things and good at others

    like he was great at seeing shots and leaning out of them

    thats defense too


    what i was talking about was

    what the fan watching thinks
     
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