Helenius is overrated

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  1. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This guy is all hype. He was going outjabbed by Samuel Peter who is perhaps the most technically unsound boxer at the elite level. Helenius doesn't have athletism, ie he is pretty slow. His stamina is **** and his technique isn't all that great. People are hyping this guy like he would beat a Klitschko (keep dreaming). If Liakovich has anything left he will beat Helenius.
     
    JMotrain, Aug 26, 2011
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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed. When you're struggling with a 260 pound Sam Peter who's already had his **** pushed in by both Klitscho's, you probably need more to your game.
     
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  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think Liakovich can win a decision in Germany on a Sauerland promotion when Helenius is Sauerlands big chance at a Klitschko payday.

    maybe a draw at best.
     
    PH|LLA, Aug 26, 2011
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  4. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he's doing great for a fighter with only 15 fights.........
     
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  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. He's an atrocious fighter. I saw an article yesterday which compared his punching technique to Riddick Bowe's. Please.

    Awful fighter.
     
    Jack, Aug 26, 2011
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  6. beefman180

    beefman180 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah pretty much...I remember I saw only the clip of him KO'ing Peter and thought man we got a new HW contender!

    Then I watched the whole raw footage of the fight and was utterly confused at how little he was doing and how poor technically he was.
     
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  7. Bazooka

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    Peter out jabbed Toney in their rematch so much so that he dropped Toney with a jab
     
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  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    look up the words overrated, lazy, inactive and you will see the poster boy for each... Liakovich
     
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  9. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liakovich has been dealing with a shoulder injury. He fought Valuev basically one handed. Liakovich is a far superior fighter to Helenius, he just might be done because of age/wear and tear.
     
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  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sure, its fair to say he's decent for an amateur. People saying he's the next Wladimir though... :lol:
     
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  11. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another thing, Liakovich is like +700. Those odds remind me of Miranda-Pavlik where Miranda was somehow the favorite. We know how that fight turned out.
     
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  12. PH|LLA

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    Liakovich by decision is actually +1400
     
    PH|LLA, Aug 26, 2011
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  13. Alien

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    he has the turning circle of a jumbo jet

    he is slow and awful
     
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  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    yeah no one can ever lose without an excuse now..."he fought valuev with one hand" wtf ever...
    wear and tear? seriously? they guy is 35 years old has 28 fights... and only 5 fights in the last 7 years...whats he "wearing/tearing ?" jerking off? Helenius fought a guy like Peter with only having 14 pro fights and fought Brewster with less than that...and you have already come up with an excuse if the fat wolfe loses... so if everything in your magical world is perfect..."if he shoulder wasnt messed up, if hes not too old, if hes not too worn out from wear and tear, hes srill the better fighter no matter what because you say so" well, the RING has no excuses...neither shoulf the fighter...he gets in there and gets his ass kicked...no ****ing crying on why.....the better man will have won..quit making ***** ass excuses for that fraud you seem to be in love with
     
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  15. canis-lupus

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    His nothing you sayed. His technically skilled, very hard puncher (probably strongest) chin is more than good and size is is very reasonable:yephis stamina is not a best but he proof all the time
     
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