Who are the top Five geatest swarmers P4P

I wouldn't call Basilio a swarmer.

A boxer-puncher with notable slugging and pressuring\stalking tendencies, but his frontfoot stuff was far too methodical and measured for this category of pressure fighting.

I think of swarmers as the ones who brought very quick forward momentum in their footwork.As well as generally a busy volume offense, but it's the pace of the fighting and engaging that is key...though usually you find that the real top shelf guys used it as another tool in the locker rather than a constant approach.

 

says the B-level Sweet Pea/lora. You're the defective Jango Fett clone of boxing discussion, breh

 

You didn't do yourself any favours by bringing up Jango Fett.

 

Depends on what era you're talking about. Generalists have certainly become more popular since the 70's I think. I tend to prefer stylists a little more, its what gives boxing flavor

 

your moms a Jango Fett

 

Honorable mention of a couple of fighters who never met a brawl they didn't like...
Ray Mancini-never took a backwards step.
Arturo Gatti, Cornelius Boza-Edwards, Rafael Limon, Jake La Motta. Azumah Nelson.

 

....Welcome to Classic.

 

Duran was like a liquid terminator in terms of styles he mastered.

He began as a slugger. In the early 70s they were calling him "Rocky" and I bet only about 2 posters know why (After Graziano, due to the vaunted right). He developed into a boxer-puncher who could maul with the best of them (Buchanan) and then became a full-blown swarmer for two key fights at Welterweight; and then became a counter-puncher as he aged and fought Middleweights.

All you Duran-bashers out there: You all have to pretend you don't read the posts challenging you to name another natural lightweight who can go 15 with Hagler or defeat a peaking Barkley at 37 years old. Now see if you can name another fighter in history who was a master of at least four different and distinct styles.

I can think of one other. I think.

 

good post stoney, good post

 

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Here I am working on the Bert Lytell series, and I had to come back to this part of this post. It's a good assertion. That style can be rightly called a nightmarish style and there are a few who had it, one particularly.

Consider the traits, as you say:
Pure swarmer
Limitless stamina
Iron chin

Add in these:
Demon speed
Exceptional physical strength
Extreme experience
Master at angles
Unorthodoxy
Great balance and legs
Ruthlessness/Desperation

Whaddya got? You got Harry Greb -the greatest fighter of the modern era. Damn right. And Ray ain't beating him. Think about it -Greb was about as strong as LaMotta and it was LaMotta's strength that caused him problems. Greb was more unorthodox and everything else compared to Turpin and the Sugar Man struggled there too. Tiger Jones? Basilio? Greb was them times three.

Consider your traits and add in good power and southpaw stance and what do you have? You have Bert Lytell! Who was, incidentally being likened to Harry Greb by his fifth pro fight...

 

probably not totally but he had the capability to be a very affective swarmer which he did

 

Ray Robinson would spank that cyclops ass. He fought in a far superior era.

 

Not sure I buy Greb was an out and out swarmer from the sparring footage I've seen he looks more of high output elusive in and out technical boxer. Given his success against bigger men and his longevity he probably wasn't an out and out swarmer

 

Lytell doesn't have an overly impressive KO record for the most part. In your research are you finding this to be for Greb-esque reasons (not sitting still long enough to get set, focusing more on volume and speed rather than power)?