More double standards with Maywather and Pac

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  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd started his career at 130 and moved all the way up to 154 even though he only weighed in at 150. After fighting at 154 and weighing only 149 the day of the fight, he decides to fight the undefeated and prime Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton at 147. Ricky usually has to cut down a lot of weight in between fights to make it to 140 and on fight night weighs in 150+. Ricky had also fought multiple fights at WW and won them including a shaky decision to Collazo. But people don't give Floyd full credit for this fight because he fought Ricky out of his prime weight.

    So in conclusion, Floyd drags a 140 pounder up ONE division that he already had multiple WINS at and was undefeated to 147 and that still most likely weighed less than him on the day of the fight.

    Now we have Pacquiao who started his career much lower, but also younger and less developed than Floyd and has fought all the way up to 150 pounds and is a "small welter" (Floyd is also). Pacquiao is fighting JMM at 144. Marquez has only ONE fight above 140 and he lost it by a shutout. Pacquiao is known to eat 7,000 calories a day just to weigh in at 144 pounds. His team has said he can easily make 140 pound and Pacquiao himself said he could go down to 135. But instead he drags a 135 pounder up one and a half divisions and will also out weigh him the day of the fight.


    Now I'm going to hear people say, "Well Pacquiao and Marquez are almost the same size and Pacquiao is smaller than Floyd, so 144 is more fair. The weight lets Marquez come in more comfortable and he doesn't have to drain as much"
    Think about that and switch it up.
    Hatton drains about 40 pounds in between fights. Instead of draining 40 pounds, now he just has to drain 33 pounds and fight at a weight he was already successful at and won a title at against a guy he's still bigger than.

    I could go on more, but I feel like I written enough. If you want to defend the Pac/Marquez catchweight, then you can't criticize Mayweather/Hatton

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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    most people are not defending the Pacquiao/Marquez catchweight, and yet give full credit to Floyd despite dragging Hatton up to 147.

    Most people are pissed that Pac is dragging Marquez up to 144, but don't mind that Floyd dragged Hatton up to 147.

    you're right about one thing, there are a lot of double standards with Maywaether and Pac. Just not the way you think.
     
  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    this
     
  4. zfc

    zfc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What were the multiple fights Hatton fought at 147?
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    also, you said Ricky has won multiple fights at 147. Pretty sure that is a lie.

    He won one fight, and it was a controversial win against a 2nd rate opponent.
     
  6. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    Pacquiao started as a pro at 106 lbs Mayweather was also fighting at 106 lbs at 16 when he was in the amateurs.

    They were the same.
     
  7. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    stop arguing with *******s my man. they will all look at what you posted and most of them won't even read most of it. they will just try to dismiss the argument and call pacquiao's fight better, despite marquez being older and more beat up and still not fighting in his prime weight.
    the ones who do read it all will simply read it to look for stuff to dismiss as not being valid. no one will take a neutral unbiased view to read this stuff from, and you will join the many who fail to introduce *******s to logic.
     
  8. NorthernCross

    NorthernCross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I haven't heard much criticism of the May-Hatton bout that you're talking about. What I do hear, however, is Pac fans defending Pac whenever Floyd fans claim that May's victory over Hatton is somehow more impressive simply because he beat Hatton before Pac. And their response has been that Pac fought Hatton where he was linear champ, whereas May didn't. So it's not that May's win wasn't good, it's just that Pac's wasn't inferior.
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Hatton fought at WW earlier in his career
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    I don't think Hatton ever campaigned at WW except when he fought Collazo. He might've come in a few pounds over the limit early in his career, but he was campaigning at JrWW
     
  11. pahapoisu

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    With Hatton it was a case of Hatton wieghing over 150 for his fights at 140 plus he usually started camp at 170 +.
     
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  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I honestly have not heard many people, with a straight face, criticise Floyd's win over Ricky due to weights. I think you're over-exaggerating a tad bit.
     
  14. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How did Mayweather drag Hatton up to 147. Hatton had already won a damn belt at WW. Hatton said he wasn't ready for Floyd at 140, and when he finally was ready to fight, Floyd was the p4p#1 so as the challenger, Hatton rightfully went to his division. That's not draggin, that's how it goes.

    If Mayweather had moved back down to 140 and lost, would you say "can't give ricky full credit since he drained Mayweather" I highlu doubt it.


    Also, Mayweather/DLH was a clear win for Floyd but it was poorly scored and was a UD. Yet I never hear anybody crying about Oscar dragging Floyd up to Junior Middle. They are definitely huge double standards because people hate Mayweather so much, they will do anything to not have to give him credit.
     
  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I see people say that Pac fought the better hatton because he was fighting at 140 and Floyd dragged him up