What in the world happend to prospect Dominick Guinn?

... his start dropped faster than a hooker's panties!
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He was the last American prospect... the very last one with any real promise. Ronnie Shields either does not have the connections or a very bad trainer.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=15726&cat=boxer

Guinn is self managed by the way!
atsch
What do you think about it?

 

I get it now. These guys are just in it for the money. I mean, they don't care about the championships... they are in it just to make money.

I hear sparring partners make alot of money during training camp. I also heard that some fighters, when they get a good streak going, throw fights for promoters in order to make that extra bit of cash... sort of like a "jobber" as they have in wrestling.

Apparently, the American heavyweight scene is plagued with jobbers and nine-to-fiver's.
:-(

 

All of these were fights he SHOULD have won if he wanted to become a world class contender and perhaps a alphabet champion. He should have had a UD vs Thompson and cracked him a few times onto a win; he should have had a very good SD vs. Chambers; and also a very good SD vs. Toney. The cards were on his side on all of these fights... there is no good excuse, and unless Toney came UP for the fight with Guinn, he should have had a UD at the very best of it.

I think this is the case with Guinn. He probably made good money without winning so to him he may as well NOT win. Guys make good money by being sparring partners that are durable and with very good skill. If he did not think to be a top rate champion, he is doing what he can- be a good stepping stone fighter and a very good sparring partner. Some guys make over 100k by just being in the gym during training camps for major title fights... he may be one of those guys! Apparently Adamek has him as a sparring partner!

He was sitting back with Michael Grant too until he unleashed a left hook- a predictable left hook at that which speaks to your comment on not a tonne of speed but just enough power- that hit Grant 3 times in that last round before he hit him with just enough the third time to wobble Grant, put him against the ropes before he hit him 4 more times and that was that!

I don't think so. Some guys REALLY shock you. I think it's the fact that after a few fights with big wins, they make more money by just being "good enough" without having to sacrifice by being world class champions.

To them: why should they spend money by trying to become a champion- something that isn't a sure shot by any means, when we speak of the likes of the Klit's and Haye and Ruiz and Valuev, with the Klit's being top class talent along with Haye to some extent, who can hit you out of the blue and Ruiz and Valuev being Don King fighters who know just enough to get past 12 rounds and STILL win on a sh1t decision- when you can instead become a good journeyman, get invited to training camps, make 100k if a guy is going in for a title shot and make MORE money by just doing that rather than investing in something like running for a title and spending MORE money by paying other guys to spar with you, your management team, promoter and all of the other expenses.

People think becoming a champion in boxing is easy. It's easy when you have an excellent prospect- I mean excellent in the manner of Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather and Ali- but if you are an average guy who can fight but has to REALLY work hard at it, use his noggin and win fights on skill and intelligence, both in and out of the ring, it's a mountain many guys just don't want to climb!

Sad but true!
:-(

 

If Guinn wants to know how to become a winner on just being average, with perhaps one good skill-set, he should talk to Larry Holmes and let Holmes teach him how to use his head and WIN on just being a better man in the ring!

In addition to that he should speak to Evander Holyfield on what HEART means. So important nowadays to have courage under fire.