Top 10 Heavyweights of All-time, The Ring - March 1975

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  1. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    saw this a couple of days ago and my jaw dropped. it think it goes to show how disrespected current fighters are by boxing historians. corbett and fitz above ali is biggest joke i've ever seen. then 20 yrs later, ring says ali was the best. i think you'll eventually see holyfield get way more respect than he does now. he's a top 10 heavy in my book.

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Division-By-Division_-_The_Greatest_Fighters_of_All-Time

    The top 10 from the Ring in march of '75 (in order)
    Joe Louis
    Jack Dempsey
    Jim Jeffries
    Jack Johnson
    Rocky Marciano
    Gene Tunney
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Jim Corbett
    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Frazier
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Wow.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I love seeing these lists.

    Gentleman jim is the most underrated fighter in history imo and should just be a shade below tunney imo (makes him about 20th on my list)

    Interesting how there's no liston at all there.

    By contrast my top ten at time is

    Louis
    Ali
    Rocky
    Johnson
    Frazier
    Liston
    Dempsey
    Foreman (just first career)
    Sullivan
    Jeffries.
     
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  4. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    horrible list
     
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  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I think most sane 'historians' would accept that Holy', Mike and Lennox are ll top ten heavys.

    That list is horrid.
     
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  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Don't make the mistake of using The Ring to form an opinion that their ratings were the consensus back then, when they were regarded as antiquated by many boxing observers (the all-time ratings improved slightly when Loubet was editor, but not enough and one of the first things Bert Sugar did when he took over was do away with their "awful" all-time ratings, which he did, hence the revamped version in the 1980s and onwards. By the time Ali beat Foreman he was a lock for Top 5 in most observers eyes; Boxing Illustrated rated him #2 by 1978 behind only Louis and Boxing News already had him Top 5 in 1971 behing the 'usual' four of Louis, Dempsey, The Rock and Johnson (don't remember the exact order).
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not in 1975 they wern't.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    1975 bro.
     
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  9. Toad

    Toad Member Full Member

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    :readthre:
     
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  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Care to expand on Corbett?

    And is there any sane reason why you would only rate part of a fighters career?
     
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  11. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    In 1969 they rated the GOAT in each division. Jack Dempsey was the almost-unanimous choice at Heavyweight, with one guy voting for Johnson.
     
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  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Because it hasn't happened yet.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Imo james easily matches the success of tunney against names just as credible.

    The only difference is that james carried on when shot whereas gene hung them up at the right time. But past prime losses should make no difference imo. James should be round about the same ranking as tunney in any atg lists imo.

    Yeah it's 75 therefore his second career hasn't happened yet.
     
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  14. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I read the ****ing thread, I was responding to this point:

    So kindly do one :good
     
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  15. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is Jeffries 3rd?

    This is my list if it were March '75.

    1) Louis
    2) Marciano
    3) Johnson
    4) Dempsey
    5) Liston
    6) Tunney
    7) Ali
    8) Charles
    9) Walcott
    10) Jeffries

    This is a crappy list regardless of year.
     
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