A few losses in a row means you are shot.....Re-evaluating Fedor's Legacy

Here is the post I was referring to, explains my p-o-v somewhat:

 

So this threads objective is to discredit Fedor's wins the way others have discredited Fedor's losses?:think

Why put yourself through this...

 

Fedor hasn't declined to the point where anyone could say he's shot. That's absurd.

I'd say he's still physically 80% of the man he was in PRIDE circa 2005, but his mentality is no longer that of a top tier fighter. You can see it in the way he fights now - he's sloppy and reckless, disregards his Sambo and Judo in favour of wild brawling, and seemingly brings no gameplan with him into the cage. I honestly think if he rematched Semmy Schilt today, he'd charge in spamming overhand rights and get stopped in a couple of minutes. I've said it before on this forum - Fedor now fights like a man who wants to get out of the cage as soon as possible and doesn't care if he wins or loses.

MMA has advanced a huge amount during Fedor's career, while his own development has virtually stood still. He still spars with mid-level fighters from Eastern Europe and Russia, men who don't resemble the competition he now fights in North American organisations. His trainers are known as 'Stopwatch' and 'Towel' for all the guidance they give him - can you imagine Black House, AKA or Jackson's offering a star fighter so little? His old school approach didn't hinder him in the first half of the last decade, but times have certainly changed.

Make no mistake, Fedor could challenge for the number one spot again if he had the desire. That's really all it would take - the will to win, an elite camp, and a return to a calculating, clinical style of fighting that incorporates his entire skillset.

But I think he's mentally finished, and the sooner his fans can wish him a happy retirement, the better.

 

I want you to know stoo that I never have said that "Dan, BF and Werdum's wins over Fedor dont count"

I never wrote that nor do I think that.

I have said that werdums win over Fedor is the greatest MMA victory ever. thats not giving werdum credit?

I personally think that Werdum's win is the only loss that might have happened in Fedors prime, though I wouldnt bet on it.

I give fighters credit for wins, but I also have eyes and can see severe decline from fedor. None of these guys beat a prime Fedor which is a fact.

 

spot on post.. :good

 

You have arlovski in the op as shot, Tim sylvia as well. Andrei never looked better in his fight vs fedor, his boxing was very good... then he left himself open and fedor put him out.

Tim sylvia didnt fight for more than a year after his loss to fedor. when he did it was vs ray mercer and tim weighed in close to 300 lbs. Tim didnt look like that for his fight against fedor. tim's prior loss was to big nog.

tring to compare someone of obvious decline at the time he was beaten in fedor, to someone like tim sylvia, (who was still at his best when the fought) is just being insincere.

And you know that we all know better than that.

 

you cant be serious in your posts. what a bunch of nonsense.

 

So the beating Fedor gave them made them shot. Not only does Fedor beat you, he ruins fighters for life