Top 10 Heavyweights of All-time, The Ring - March 1975

The main thing we can take from this is that time alters perceptions of legacies and standings.

Ali already had his greatest victories behind him and had probably surpassed the entire list with the possible exceptions of Louis and Marciano.


It will be interesting to see which fighters on our current lists still make the 2047 list.

And where they will place.

 

These could be Nat Loubet's rankings.

 

god what a thought.

in 2111 some interweb (or whatever it's called then) boxing fans stumbling across some of our ATG lists and laughing because criteria has changed yet again.

"how did these guys ever have louis and ali top 2" lol what a thought.

 

Yeah, but the Zaire and Manila fights were still ahead of him.

 

Somewhat sad for us, yet so true

 

Ah, sorry my bad

 

I LOVE Rocky Marciano,who I saw demolish Carmine Vingo in MSG,1949,but I recall during Rocky's heyday,when they compared Dempsey against Marciano primes,all the sportwriters who saw them both at their best,
almost unanimously chose Dempsey over Marciano,because of Dempsey's
raw speed and two handed hitting power.No one,that the savage hitting
Dempsey of Toledo is able to hurt survives. No one. Too,
too fast with his attack for the much slower Rocky.And Dempsey from the waist up was the bigger man,with a longer reach...Dempsey,takes Marciano
as the people who saw them both proclaimed...

 

In a 1980 Ring all-time greatest poll, Ali was actually rated #2 all-time at heavyweight. Duran 2nd all-time at Lightweight, Monzon #2nd at middleweight. Many great fighters could be rated very highly despite still being active (or even just finishing their careers), so this argument that greats are only appreciated years later doesn't really wash, when they're obviously that good. The poll is simply the result no more Fleischer and no more Loubet, two men who had trouble moving on.

 

I'm sorry, Conteh, but the Ali rating changing so much from 75 to 80 makes perfect sense. Look how many ATG's he defeated in this time period. Shavers, YOUNG, Norton, if you want to count Norton...

 

I'm not sure how serious you are here. Not very I imagine. :yep But yeah, his 1975 in itself (adding the stoppages of Joe and Lyle) wouldn;t have harmed his rankings. Not sure how much 1976 helped myself though. Losing and defeating Spinks doesn't impress me personally.

The point is, had Loubet, Ort et al not been there in March 1975, Ali would have been ranked much higher- like he was...in most everything bar The Ring.

 

interesting!did carmine get close to stopping rocky??

 

Joe? It's "Jimmy" Young not Joe Young. You're thinking of the guy that knocked out Richard Pryor but that was at welterweight. LEARN ABOUT BOXING.

 

To be honest, I think that Louis and Ali are going to be prety hard to shift based on resume.

While the resumes of fighters like Johnson, Dempsey and even Marciano may unravel under retrospective scrutiny to some extent, theirs will withstand the arrows and slings.

It is difficult to imagine any heavyweight of the next 40 years building a resume that will surpass theirs. The only way I can see it happening, is if we get a precocious talent like a young Mike Tyson, who also happens to have an aptitude for longevity.

 

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