Most numbers of atg beaten? Pac or Floyd

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  1. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not at the time Manny fought Oscar.
     
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  2. badassQatari

    badassQatari Active Member Full Member

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    99% of experts and fans gave pac zero chance for an upset against oscar. And oscar arguably beat floyd
     
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  3. PugilisticPower

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    Hernandez, Corrales and JLC are all on the same level as Barerra and Morales in my view.
     
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  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    really clutching at straws here:patsch
     
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  5. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    Until they face eachother
     
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  6. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I disagree.

    Corrales was even money, if not favoured to beat Floyd due to his size and power at the weightclass. He dominated Garcia, had good wins against Manfredy, had razor close fights against Casamayor and JLC and delivered Freitas his first loss.

    At 130-135, very few fighters can boast similar achievements to what he did at the weight class. A very under-rated fighter and a guy who with the exception of Floyd, was a tough fight for every single guy he faced

    He's comparable to Barrera, ultimately lost against the elite fighters but was good enough to severely challenge them on his day and won some seriously good fights.

    JLC was a notch above Corrales in my book in his prime, especially in the days he faced Floyd. He is a notch below Morales but not so far below that he can't be compared based on their respective achievements. He was beaten late in his career by a number of rising stars but make no bones about it, his achievements against Casmayor, Corrales, Diaz and the fights against Floyd showed his quality as a fighter.

    If you're putting MAB as an ATG based on his career, you've really got to consider these two there.

    Anyone who argues with Gernaro Hernandez also needs their head examined, he had a great career at 130-135 and only ever lost to two P4P #1 fighters in ODLH and Floyd. Again, comparable to Barrera.

    Morales is probably just ahead of JLC and Hernandez,
     
    PugilisticPower, Aug 29, 2011
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  7. horst

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    The only statistic which counts in this debate is:



    Number of PRIME ATG fighters beaten by Pac and Floyd.

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    (1st Barrera fight, 2nd Marquez fight)

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    It's one of THE key reasons why Pacquiao ranks higher in terms of greatness than Mayweather, and boxing historians will continue to recognize this. :deal
     
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  8. dranon

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    Dont try and reason with the *******s its hopeless. I love how they leave out the fact their hero never beat EM or MAB in their primes and got 2 gifts Against JMM. So i guess what im tryin to say is Larry Holmes is the greatest ever cause he beat Ali....end thread.
     
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  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    boom!
     
    puga_ni_nana, Aug 29, 2011
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  10. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Look at it this way

























    Who gives a **** either fight or go back to urge island~
     
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  11. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    You missed one.:hi:
     
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  12. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    That's how you see it. Floyd and Pacquiao have not fought atg fighters, and beaten them in their prime. They both have defeated good and great fighters.
     
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  13. Leonard

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    :deal
     
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  14. Gander Tasco

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    /end thread
     
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  15. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are u crazy? Barrera is 28 years old when pac fought him and he is the best featherweight at that time, and thats pac fist fight in featherweight division and supposed to be a tune up fight for barrera..
     
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