Most numbers of atg beaten? Pac or Floyd

not really because the fight he used balco was the rematch with oscar and I scored that for oscar anyways.

 

Thats not the point.

The point is, he was knowingly taking steroids. He knowingly cheated.

 

So if anyone disagrees with your delusional ******* cheerleading he must be a *****.Yeah because i think kicking Gatti ass and beating Baldomir are great feats, you know its possible not to be a delusional fan of either....but Cheerleaders like you cant grasp that idea.:klitfanb:

 

what makes you think he was knowingly comlient?

anyways, whether or not you like the guy, the fight he cheated, he lost.

 

Cause Victor Conte came clean with the FEDs and already said that he never lied to anyone, he sat them down and broke down what exactly they were taking and when etc.

The fact that Mosley cheated, whether it be for his career or one fight is a taint on his career. Simple as that.

He did lose that fight, but his career is still tainted.

 

Of course you do. Because Floyd fought him. If Floyd had never fought him, you wouldn't think he was an ATG. This is the way you General Forum turds roll.

There have been four ATGs at 130 over the last 4 decades: Arguello, Mayweather, Chavez and Nelson.

Hernandez got stopped by the two best fighters he ever fought at 130, he's no ATG. Give the agenda a rest for once.

 

Next time, when you try to roll in looking super smart like you just made this great point and "owned someone"

At least do ****ing research and learn that Genaro only lost once at 130. That was to Mayweather. He lost to DLH at 135.

Good try though dip****. Now go back in your hole and kindly **** off.

 

He retired with two losses. One to Floyd at 130. His other was to Oscar de la Hoya at 135. So yes, you are already wrong there.


If Floyd hadn't fought him, Genaro would have retired undefeated at 130 and everyone, including you, would be claiming him as the third best to ever fight at the weight. Be neutral man...

 

How do you rate brian mitchel?

 

Fact remains, if the argument is that MAB deserves to be an ATG - you can't overlook JLC, Corales or Hernandez. If MAB is the yardstick you're using, each of these guys have performed similar careers.

 

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so you're honestly saying that not only would Robinson get dominated by every modern WW, but hernandez is as great as MAB?

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The seven defeats against elite opposition are what go against MAB and you're not discrediting his career for these losses, that's the major issue of contention.

Hernandez basically ruled 130 until Floyd stopped him, do a similar career breakdown of Top 10 fighters he defeated and realise he also did the impressive thing by ruling his division at the time rather than move up and down weight classes, in my view people don't get enough credit for sticking in one division and dominating it.

JLC and Corrales are right up there with similar achievements, especially in their days prior fighting wars with each other, the problem is that MAB, Morales and Pacquaio get an unfair amount of credit for the amount of times they fought and split decisions with each other, they're profiting on those fights.

 

well his career isn't. his character and that fight yes.

if his legacy was based on the renatch I'd agree, but it isn't so I don't.

 

well I provided mab, you do the honours for hernandez.

however let me say this.

from 91-94 he was top 3, nelson and gatti would rank above him and he fought neither during this time frame.

in 97 he returned to the division to beat nelson, ruled for a year till floyd beat him.

however I look forward to seeing your breakdown and seeing how you think he compares.

as for MAB's losses, his loss to Jones hurts him because it exposed a stylistic weakness. his series win over Morales flatters him because he aint as great IMO. his losses to pacman are not harmful since pac is much greater. his loss to jmm was very close and he was past prime. his loss to khan doesn't really matter.

it's like holding genaro's losses against him when he lost to people far far greater than he is.

I'd like to hear the way you compare genaro's run at the weight with Mitchel's also, this should be an interesting analysis.

 

Only *****s or ******s say that Barrera was past prime when Pac beat him. You say you're not a *****.... :yep