As time goes on I rate Floyd's win over JMM higher.........

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BENNY BLANCO, Aug 30, 2011.


  1. oskar

    oskar Active Member Full Member

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    What's funny is asking for the proof that PBF is 160 on fight night, it's like asking for the proof that Pac is on peds which is ironic.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    prime for prime Oscar destroys Pac with his shotgun like jab...No doubt.
     
  3. wilgen99

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    Right. Don't accuse if you have no proof. Now, I just wonder, :patsch why do people keep accusing Pacman of using PED when there is/was no proof at all of PED use?
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Another ******* alt :patsch :-(

    -He's afraid of needles
    -He bigger than me
    -Blood tests weaken him
    -Needs a month to recover from blood tests
    -Needs 14 days to recover from blood tests
    -Having a second peak in his career
    -Looking faster and stronger after slowing down a bit in his career
    -How about Pac avoiding random testing like the Plague, as if he's hiding and avoiding somthing.
     
  5. wilgen99

    wilgen99 Member Full Member

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    Bro, relax. My post is neutral. My point is, accusing someone without proof is just unfair and stupid.. and fans of Floyd and Pacman riding on this bs does not help make the fight we all want to see. I am a fan of both and just like everyone else, it's gonna be a boxing holiday to see them finally fight.

    And btw, I'm no *******'s alt. :hi: I'm just someone who enjoyed being an ESB spectator for a long time. Peace!
     
  6. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Marquez is a big lightweight,could easily fiht at light welter.

    If Andre Ward dominated Sergio Martinez,I mean completely outboxedn him round 1-12,you wouldnt give him any props?
     
  7. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing changes the fact that EVERYONE knew going in that Floyd had every possible advantage and it was his fight to lose!
     
  8. This fight was never competitive, JMM was bloated. It was an easy comeback fight for Mayweather where he looked great.
     
  9. Phat_Ass_Dude

    Phat_Ass_Dude Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Personally, I don't need time to pass by for me to appreciate FMJ victory over JMM. Everyone went on & on about the weight issue, but for me, that never really bothered me. Floyd doesn't beat fighters because of weight or size difference...he simply out-classes them with sheer boxing ability, speed, timing and precision, PLAIN & ****ING SIMPLE. And there were two things that stood out in that fight that would make any boxing fan appreciate Floyd Mayweather (for those who don't, You are just A HATER!).

    1. Floyd has out-boxed plenty of fighters who were just not as talented nor had any overall Boxing ability to begin with. Guys like Corrales who was just a big puncher, Gatti who was just a brawler, same as Hatton and a few other fighters. But JMM is a skilled fighter. With excellent technique and one of the best counter-punchers of ALL-TIME! But Floyd made JMM look like an amateur for an entire 12 rounds.

    2. Floyd was retired and in-active for almost 2 years (21 months) and was still able to look stellar...that's impressive.
     
  10. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    It did affect marquez, unless he does very well fro now on at 144 but he seemed fat and slow.
    If they fought at 130 even 135 the fights wouldnt have been this wide, not saying marquez would have won for sure but he would have done better.
    At the moment marquez has no business above 135 thus making any win above it against him quit meaningless, unless he somehow proves himself there it will be viewed upon that way.
     
  11. HAYEDAJOKE

    HAYEDAJOKE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    154lb champ making the 135king move up weight and fight ==== coward
     
  12. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I personally don't think JMM looked as slow and as powerless as people try to make out. This claim is slightly exaggerated because of how easy Floyd made it look. It also turns out that Floyd probably weighed no more than 152 pounds on fight night. So the massive weight advantage that we all thought existed, becomes almost a non-factor when you consider Floyd didn't even use his size and strength to bully him.

    As mentioned already, the only thing which takes the shine off the win, is that Mayweather cheated him on the scales and JMM, by his own admission, didn't put the weight on as efficiently as he should have. If he knew Floyd would actually be as light as he was, he probably would have prepared better.
     
  13. W1LLPARK3R

    W1LLPARK3R Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yea, but Pac's gonna destroy Marquez in their LAST fight...
     
  14. horst

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    I don't understand what difference the point in red makes, at all. You don't rate a win on how the fight might have gone under totally different circumstances, you rate the win on the reality.

    The reality is that Floyd had been at welterweight for 5 years, and Marquez had been at superfeather the year before, and Floyd made Marquez jump 2 weight classes, and Floyd cheated the catchweight.

    The only conclusion that makes any sense is that it was, in reality, a meaningless, worthless victory.
     
  15. IsaL

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    Floyd did not use size to beat Marquez...True story.

    Hell, Floyd doesn't use size to beat anyone.