Proof that Calzaghe is better than Muhammad Ali

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  1. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's "Are" kiling!:patsch
     
  2. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    this...^

    end of thread
     
  3. artful

    artful *practice makes perfect* Full Member

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    Calzaghe is the G.O.A.T
     
  4. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ban the fool.
     
  5. haworths623

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    He would of beaten Henry Armstrong too here is why...

    Armstrong was beaten by Chester Slider
    who was beaten by Sammy Walker
    who was beaten by Alfredo Beezer
    who was beaten by Jose Edwin
    who was beaten by Ossie Marcano
    who was beaten by Frankie Olivera
    who was beaten by Bobby Cassidy
    who was beaten by Ramon Ranquello
    who was beaten by Arturo Diaz
    who was beaten by Vyacheslav Yakovlev
    who was beaten by Lionel Butler
    who was beaten by Daiman Wills
    who was beaten by Oliver McCall
    who was beaten by Cedric Boswell
    who was beaten by Jammel McCline
    who was beaten by Chris Arreola
    who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
    who was beaten by Chad Dawson
    who was beaten by Jean Pascal
    who was beaten by Carl Froch
    who was beaten by Mikkel Kessler

    who was beaten by SUPER JOE!!!
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patschGreat...another UKunt Joe C fanboy....
     
  7. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Calzaghe outworked Hopkins clearly down the line, but that doesn't make him goat or anything like that.
     
  8. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    :lol::lol:.. Excellent thread :rofl :good
     
  9. haworths623

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    Don't even like Joe. He's a welsh, cocaine using **** .

    Froch all the way for me.

    But as you can see from the thread Calzaghe is better than Ali, Ray Robinson and Armstrong..

    and a much as I hate to admit it Froch-

    Froch<Kessler<SUPER JOE
     
  10. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe also beat:
    Roy Jones who beat Montell Griffin, who beat James Toney, who beat Fres Oquendo, who beat Clifford Etienne, who beat Lamon Brewster, who beat Wladimir Klitschko!
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :clap::clap: Top thread
    The win Calzaghe had over Veit was a very good victory.
    The first time Calzaghe beat Veit, Veit was 30-0 and hadnt beaten anyone of real note, hence he was blown away in a round by Calzaghe.
    When Calzaghe beat Veit a 2nd time Veit was an accomplished world rated 45-1 fighter who had some solid victories behind him, and was top 10 rated.
    Veit had beaten undefeated Dziarra who wasnt a great fighter but did go on to beat L Mock and undefeated M Oral who would go on to challenge MW champs A Abraham and S Sylvester recently.
    Veit had also beaten beaten undefeated Guerrero for the European union title.
    Veit beat future title challenger Salem and Mock.
    Veit also beat world rated C Brewer with an educated destructive 9th round KO.
    A note on Veit. He only ever lost to world champs or fighters who became world champs and has victories over Mock, Salem, Perdermo (a future Kessler challenger), Brewer when Brewer was world rated and Veit beat undefeated Braehmer who is now the current WBO LHW champ due for a unification fight in JAN 2011. Since not happend due to illness
    A good Calzaghe victory over a mandatory world class SMW
    Also a great away victory for Calzaghe in Germany
    Look at ***** Lance_Uttercunt :lol:. He just cant handle that Alaska has very little claim to fame. No wonder many good people from America call Alaska Americas arsehole, especially with wimps like Lance there :oops:



    There is no blueprint on how to beat Calzaghe and all wins come back to him.
    Look at all these alleged top names and how when you go back they all lead back to Calzaghe - Jones, Hopkins, Toney, Nunn, Holyfield, Bowe and as the TS stated even Ali.

    Calzaghe has haunted all these Hopkins nuthuggers.
    Here an old post

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    . I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

    Yes I think there is a good chance Hopkins would have been stopped if there had of been a ref that didnt give Hopkins time out and let him hold illegally at a constant level.

    What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

    Remember after Calzaghe beat Hopkins, many called for Hopkins to retire and even thought a fighter 2 weight divisions lower would beat him due to Calzaghe making him look so poor

    :woot:finger5:finger:blah:banana:tdh
     
  12. wooootles

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    Damn :admin
     
  13. El Bujia

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    :lol:
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You are obviously just a troll. Or a bored kid who thinks that **** you posted means something. It doesn't. What you wrote doesn't hold any water in boxing. It's the equivalent of a 3yo trying to explain nuclear fusion. But I'm sure you'll get some ******s to tell you how right you are... :roll:
     
  15. haworths623

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    He could also beat Willie Pep

    who lost to Calvin Woodland
    who lost to Alfredo Marcano
    who lost to Art Hafey
    who lost to Danny Lopez
    who lost to Jorge Rodriguez
    who lost to Johnny De La Rosa
    who lost to Roberto Sierra
    who lost to Joel Casamayor
    who lost to Diego Corrales
    who lost to Joshua Clottey
    who lost to Carlos Manuel Baldomir
    who lost to Verron Forrest
    who lost to Sergio Mora
    who lost to Brian Vera
    who lost to Jaidon Codrington
    who lost to Sakio Bika
    who lost to..........................SUPER JOE!!