Did Dempsey take a dive?

Dempsey's wife said a lot of things and was regarded as almost completely unreliable. If we believe her in regards to this then we must also believe that Dempsey's early round rushes were the result of him being hopped up on cocaine which she also stated.

 

Double talk. You are trying to rewrite history to make Dempsey seem more than human while stating that its wrong to hold his formative years against him. I agree with the latter, he was still developing in 1917 which is why its easy to see how he could get KNOCKED OUT COLD by Jim Flynn.

As for Green, I have the film Burt. He wasnt on his back. He was on his knees and he and his handlers didnt rush the ref. It was just Green, crying, and he was held back by his handlers who rushed into the ring when he tried to go after Graziano. Ive seen him flatten Arnold as well, Ive also seen him lose to Green and struggle with Sonny Horne. You can try and pull rank and age on me but that only goes so far in the digital age.

 

Klompton versus Burt. FOTY candidate. Keep it up boys, this is fun watching you two milling away.

 

**** happens, even great fighters get caught cold sometimes. Duodenum posted a few other examples too.

I admit though it is a tad suspicious.

 

Dempsey used Cocaine as PED? And A-Side Meth? Did Tunney make Dempsey take the test?

 

Just like you were at ringside for a completely unknown, unreported fight between the most popular fighter in the USA arguably and one of his top contenders? :-(

 

"From the minute the bell clanged,I knew I was in trouble.I had made the mistake of not warming up properly.What a dumb oversight on my part_ it was probably going to cost me the fight!
I should have shadow boxed in the back room!

I should have done this ,and I should have done that! I kept berating myselfwhen Bam!down I went.
I barely managed to get up when crack!-down again.
I got floored a few times and the worst part of it was that I knew it was my own fault!
I was just about getting my second wind ,when Bernie threw the towel in."

Jack Dempsey,from the autobiography " Dempsey".

 

Hahahahaaaaaaaahhhhahahaa what a hilarious turn off events?!! I drop in one comment exposing klomptons major chip on the shoulder and look what happens when I'm gone?!! Didn't surprise me that you'd show your face in this one too hahaha - are you and klompton the same person? I've never known any two people to get so vehemently angry and aggressive over a fighter?? Unbeleivable hatred

 

Dempsey had been knocked down 9 times in the first round by a middleweight previously and was knocked down by the first punch Firpo threw because of his rushing tactics. An experienced battler like Flynn could take advantage of it.

I'm not saying I discount the possibility of a dive on Dempsey's part because that's reality in boxing but so far there has been no definite proof either way. It's easy to say on hindsight that it must have been a dive because of the difference in class but at the time Flynn was probably the best opponent Dempsey had ever faced. Even 4 years later Flynn was able to come up with a victory over Sully Montgomery who went onto have a decent heavyweight career so you can't discount that the same thing could have happened to Dempsey.

 

bert sugar stated that dempsey hadn't had anything to eat for four days before the flynn ko loss. take what you will from that.

 

Your probably the most neutral opponent on this GA :good

 

it was probably fixed but it funny how guys like dempsey, pep, and lamotta almost get respect for throwing a fight. it's overlooked when judging their careers. can you imagine if this were jones or mayweather today? just sayin'.