If Berto doesn't win clearly against Zaveck...

He s awful watch the Rafeal Jaca fight it s on youtube

 

atsch My whole family sees him MANY times so much so that can has recall installates! atsch

Your face is profound, Martineztard...

 

Who is Zaveck?? What is his style like? Does he at least have good power??

 

His stock doesnt drop, unless you lower all fighters stock who have been in this situation.

Example of that would look something, Well Manny made Mosley run like a scared ***** after Manny dropped Mosley, However Floyd was rocked by Mosley so when Manny fought Shane and beat him he did a slightly better job Floyds stock should fall....

Truth is lets say even Zaveck kicks his ass one sidedly its not going to do anything to Victors stock, this ass whippen may be the result of a mental let down over the last few years from Berto, he has taken them, He had to deal with knowing he didnt beat Collazo and hearing it from media and fans, then the earthquake in hatti which took the mosley fight off the table, then his loss to a man who is a known quitter with questionable heart mentally thats alot to over come

 

he is mr. unknockoutable

 

Železo have power like Vitalaevus. No try knockout one punch but punish wit iron (ironically!lol!) and he two-fist and subtle reflex evade blockage to take additional steps wit footwork obfuscate. When he calculations in his brain like Juan Manuel Marquez also think very high, you see. He is countering and leading but his counter is relegate apt on opponent torso as well you will see. Very great! :happy Watch soon! He give Andre big spinach leaf direct into buttocks! :bbb

 

Exactly what I was thinking that's why I made a thread about it.

 

My english isn`t exactly brilliant, but yours my friend is uffff just horrible..... if I wrote something similar to your post in my highschool english class, I wouldn`t get F, but teacher would beat the **** out of me.....
Now about this fight... it`s really hard to predict the outcome of this fight, but I would really really really like to see Zavec win.

 

Berto will beat zaveck IMO but if he loses or struggles it will have no effect on Ortiz, basically it will show that Berto opponent was much better than thought.

 

:rofl :nut

 

Only seen Zavek once, not impressed at all. If Berto doesn't beat him, he truly is overrated.

 

It doesn't have to. It could be spun that Ortiz softened him up and Zaveck feasted on leftovers.

In fact, that is definitely what will happen. None of the cocky lot writing Zaveck off as an overmatched Euro-bum are going to want to lose face, so he won't get any credit for a win (or pushing Berto to the brink). Conveniently, Berto will have exited a "short prime" some time in the few months between the Ortiz and Zaveck losses.

 

Power and cheeeeen! are probably his best attributes. He isn't fast or flashy and has a fairly orthodox and straightforward style. If he catches Berto clean, though, he can stun/hurt him at least as bad as Ortiz did.

The devil will be in the details - can he hit him clean? He will be at a major speed disadvantage. Then again, others at a major speed disadvantage (but with considerably less power) have gotten to Berto in the past.

 

Good argument. :roll:

My English better most than *****s and *******s! Geebs, sjeng, where your patriot fraternity for me? Like American say, chill winsongs! Dude! You have harshed my melons, dudesef!

 

With all due repects mate how can I debate with someone who thinks a bloke who lost clearly to Rafeal Jaca has the same boxing brain as Juan Manuel Marquez :thumbsup