Spinks: "Normal Floyd does NOT beat Pac "

None of these guys even measure to Pac right now. Maybe Mosley and Hernenadez were something in their prime. Corales was prime but he fought short crunch over like Williams and was very slow sometimes.

 

Same could be said of Floyd compared to anyone Pac has fought since he was 130 pounds.

 

I never said his opinion isn't better than mine. I'm just saying I don't agree with it

 

An average of 16% jabs landed for Manny in his fights counting JMM II onward. That will not get it done, and as usual, die hard Manny fans are completely ignoring it. He landed 3% against Clottey!!! Mayweather will be controlling distance all night with his jab and superior footwork. And if you don't think you need an effective and consistent jab to walk down Mayweather, you must be crazy or just blind.

Secondly, I see a lot of people seriously under-rating Mayweather's punching power like he is Malignaggi or something. Pretty ridiculous actually. The guy has pop, you're tripping if you think he can't hurt Manny with a well-timed shot.

And for the blind fools talking about the Mosley fight: Floyd had Mosley in survival mode. Mosley WAS getting hurt and changed his style so he could go the distance. Mosley did not want to get KO'd, just like he didn't against Pacquiao.

 

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Who hell said he punches like Malinaggi??? Please entlighten us who said that??? :bart:nonoI don't think he punches any harder than Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosely... And Pacuqiao has taken their punches... As Spinks correctly surmised it would have to be an accumulation of punches from Mayweather to beat Pacquiao convincingly. Mayweather doesn't have the "guts" or the "heart" to do something like that. :smoke

 

Again, I hate to stereotype the die-hard Manny fans, but you did not say a single thing in regard to actual boxing strategy. Just saying.

And I didn't claim anybody SAID he punches like Malignaggi, I said people are acting like the guy has no power to back Manny off, and used Malignaggi as an example.

And AGAIN, another die-hard refuses to come to terms with the reality that Manny does not have an effective jab to pursue Mayweather with. 16% will not get it done. And if you think Manny can just walk in and wing power punches, I don't know what to tell you.

Manny is going to be shorter, have a reach disadvantage, and no jab to close distance. There is no significant speed advantage for Manny to compensate for those disadvantages against Mayweather, like there has been with other fighters. Mayweather is also the superior ring tactician.

 

You mean 3% of Jabs on the guy who was in a shell for 99% of the fight? That's pretty impressive considering Josh was protecting his face with that tight guard. Floyd can't fight the way he fought Shane and expect to beat Manny and he can't fight Manny the way he fought Ricky or DLH and expect to beat PAC. Shane was in survival mode with PAC....not with Floyd. He was losing, round after round in both fights but he actually TRIED to fight Floyd where he RAN from PAC.

 

Again, another die-hard Manny fan who didn't say a single thing in regard to actual boxing strategy. I see a trend...

16% average jabs landed. It's not just Clottey. This is a tally from all his recent fights starting at the 2nd JMM fight. You're not going to walk in winging power punches and win against Mayweather. You need an effective jab to disrupt his timing/rhythm and to control/close distance.

Manny is shorter, will have a reach disadvantage, Mayweather is a better ring general/tactician, Mayweather has a better jab, better footwork, and better defensive technique.

If you really get down to it, what advantages does Manny have in this fight compared to Mayweather? If you're honest with yourself you will realize that Manny will be up against it with Floyd, and will be the underdog without question. For example: You talk but I bet you wouldn't make a substantial monetary bet on Manny winning.

There is a reason Manny will not be the betting favorite against Mayweather, and it certainly isn't because everybody loves Mayweather. Smart money is on Mayweather beating Pacquiao if you really analyze and break it down. I just hope there is enough silly fans that will drive the odds down.

 

He only landed 10% of his jabs on Morales. Floyd's left hand is great at parrying southpaw jabs. Look for manny to land close to 0% in the jab department when they fight.

 

this is what I hate most about them

 

Pac has spent the past few years fighting guys with styles as far removed from Mayweather as you can get. Its really no secret that Pac has problems with technically sound boxers who can counter well. What PAc has been doing lately is impressive but its done nothing to prepare him for Floyd. Throwing combos at Antonio "Heavy Bag" Margarito isn't helping him prepare for a slick counter puncher with great timing who adjusts in a fight better than any boxer in history.

On the other hand, Floyds spent his whole career fighting come forward pressure fighters who try to "do what Castillo did."

Pac/Floyd woud look like Floyd/Hatton. Like I said, Pac would look so different, people would think there was something wrong with the guy.

 

Floyd/Hatton my favorite Mayweather fight.:yep

 

Pacquiao doesn't have the inside game to even attempt what Ricky was trying. His goal is the magical medium distance that he trys to throw/jump throw his shots from. He's gonna get picked apart something awful.

Might look more like Mayweather/Gatti.

 

Floyd who?

 

Marquez is not a great puncher, and he gave Pacquiao a fight twice. Same goes for Morales. Boxing gives Pacquiao trouble. Floyd possesses more skill than any of the welterweights Pacquiao has been fighting. As far as those guys not fighting yet, they may fight one day.