Jack Johnson v Lennox Lewis

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  1. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    Lennox clowns him....it won't even be competitive
     
  2. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    You're ridiculous
     
  3. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    When you compare a fighter from 100 years ago to fighters in today's age of steroids and nutritional and training enhancements, you have to take that into account. What kind of fighter would Lennox be 100 years ago? What kind of build would he have? What kind of fighter would Jack Johnson be in today's era with his tremendous physique with today's nutritional and training enhancements?

    You have to take that into account or you might as well not even compare the two fighters. Jack Johnson in Lennox era would rule the roost whereas if Lennox was around in Jack Johnson's era he would be a journeyman or a contender at best.
     
  4. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Hahaha, you ****ing idiot.
     
  5. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    Sorry the truth hurts about your idol Lennox Lewis. :hi:

    I wouldn't expect you to understand the simple logic I have described above, particularly when it is not in favor of your idol.
     
  6. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    Because he always seemed to fight guys at the most opportune time when they are so far removed from their prime that they're not able to be competitive? The fact that he had 2 left feet and put on snoozer bouts everytime he stepped into the ring? The fact that he was exposed as not being the real deal twice in his career early on in fights with just a single punch? Because he is a sore loser who is full of himself and never gives due to a fighter?

    Take your pick, as there are a thousand reasons to dislike this fraud. I simply can not stand fighters who are opportunists who fight guys out of their prime, ala Manny Pacquiao today - and I did like Manny Pacquiao and since 2010 I have lost a world of respect for him and he continues to fight bad fights that nobody wants to see and is now fighting Marquez at 39 years old. He has taken a page from the Lennox Lewis book and I'm sorry but I can't respect that.

    Fight the fights that people want to see and if you lose you went out like a true champion.

    Jay you and I have gone back and forth on this topic and the argument is tired. As a Lennox supporter you have every reason/excuse as to why he fought who he fought when he fought them, and as a person who doesn't respect Lewis' decisions over the years, I have my reason's as to why it went down the way it did. We will just always disagree on this topic and my reason's are why I will never respect Lewis the way most guys do.

    You have said in the past that it is because he pasted Mike Tyson, and no that is not the reason. I wouldn't expect anything less from a Mike Tyson who was so out of shape and on anti depressants, I was just shocked that it took 8 rounds to do it. Even in Mikes condition Lewis fought a boring safety first style fight because even tho Mike was 12 years removed from fight shape, Lewis was not confident that he could end it.

    The same Mike that fought Lewis fought Williams and McBride, both of which pasted Mike better and faster than Lewis did.
     
  7. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    I am not trolling, I simply gave my opinion as to who would win between Lennox Lewis and the Legendary ATG Jack Johnson and I chose Johnson and was called an idiot for the logic I used.

    I have read your reasons and I simply disagree, no matter how it's twisted. A Pacquiao fan can come up with the same reasons for why Manny has fought Oscar at 147 (fight night weight with IV's) at 35 years old, Mosley at 39, Margarito at 150lb's, and Cotto at 145. I don't want to hear that because it is a load of bull. It happened that way as to be advantageous to Pacquiao, the same as Lewis waited for the opportune time as to have an advantage over the guys he faced.

    There is a difference between arrogant and just a classless buffoon, as is Lewis. Even after losing fairly twice, he continues to call it a bad call and that there was a conspiracy against him. Real fans are not stupid, Lennox, you could not stand and you fell forward into the referee at the count of 9 and could not continue, yet he refuses to give any credit to his opponent for fight a good fight as Tyson did vs Douglas, Dempsey did against Tunney, and the list goes on and on. Ali didn't give Joe the credit he deserved because he truly did not agree with it, he felt he did more in the ring and I respect his opinion cause he was in there although I disagree with it, but that was a SD victory and not a clear cold knockout where he was glossy eyed and falling all over the ring like Lennox was. That is not confidence, that is just a classless buffoon who can not give another professional fighter his due for besting him at their game. Rahman and McCall both bested Lewis fair and square yet Lewis to this day can not admit that - like a true chump.

    The difference with guys like Hatton and Nigel Benn is that they always stepped up to fight the best. There is no shame in Benn wanting to fight Eubank! McClellan! The best the divisions had to offer! Same with Ricky Hatton, he stepped up and fought Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather when they were the top guys, there is no shame in him losing, because he fought them! And they lost to top guys in the prime of their career, whereas Lewis lost to journeyman - these were stepping stone fighters that were carefully picked by Lewis' management to move him up the ranks, as was the case with McCall and he sent him into last week, so it is not comparable to Benn or Hatton losing their fights to legitimately great fighters.

    Holmes is another guy who is classless for the most part. To this day he still claims he was about to KO Tyson until his hand got caught in the ropes. I have never been a fan of Larry for the reason you stated - he does not give credit when credit is due and always has an excuse.
     
  8. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    you is cowardzaghae on youtube?
     
  9. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A focused, confident Lennox Lewis who uses his jab, right hand and reach to his advantage could pose huge problems for Jack Johnson. Lewis moves very well for a big man and has good footwork for a modern superheavyweight. However, Johnson would finish Lewis where Briggs, Holyfield, Mercer and Bruno didn't. Johnson, like Joe Walcott bring more tricks to this fight that Lewis never faced, except for Holyfield. Tyson said Holyfield threw "first class counter punches," in their first fight. Well, Jack Johnson would nail Lennox with the same type of first class counter punches and likely stops him before the 12 distance. Lewis wouldn't last 15 rounds, unless he was in better shape, paced himself and trained for a longer fight which he never did in his career.
     
  10. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    He's not even that much of a good poster, under modern rules Lewis beats Johnson's ass... absolutely annihilates him, he's just too ignorant to accept that fact. And no amount of paragraphs can change it.

    Lewis also blows out his ***** boy Dempsey too :hey
     
  11. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    Disrespecting legitimate legendary ATG fighters of the past only makes you out to be more of an idiot than you already are.

    "Under modern rules." You don't even know what you're talking about. Try finding a Lennox Lewis fansite where your opinion will be taken seriously, because around here where people know boxing, you're nothing but a joke.
     
  12. Jorodz

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    not really, i enjoy his posts. lewis wins, he's a h2h monster
     
  13. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    And Dempsey is a ***** boy. Right.
     
  14. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    :lol:
    You don't know ****...you're nothing but an ignoramus you can't even understand that btw. JJ and LL reigns there's almost 100 years in which the sport has drastically changed.

    "boxing experts" :lol:; show any tape of JJ and LL fighting to any non-biased pedestrian and he will tell you that Lennox beats the **** out of JJ.

    What the senile old farts who lurk this forum fail to understand is that by today's standards JJ wouldn't even be journeyman level


    "jack Johnson beats Lennox" :lol:...FFS he couldn't beat Marvin Hart :rofl
     
  15. carlosg815

    carlosg815 Member Full Member

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    And Lennox Lewis was axed in just 2 rounds by journeyman drug addict Oliver McCall :yep:rofl:lol: