Anyone else have any trouble supporting Cain because of his "Brown Pride" tattoo?

I don't want anybody to hate themselves, I'm sorry I made that impression. It's not true.. I don't define any group of people by what individuals in that particular group have done.

You gotta love yourself.. One of the first things we should get right in life :good

 

These conversations are why I only have 2000 posts over the past 6 years. I would much rather talk face to face then misunderstand each other for an hour before we realize we both have the same points of view. I actually hate message board discussions, I usually just come here for fight info and updates.

 

Brown Pride is linked to the civil rights movement, you know MLK, Malcolm X, and the protest against a segregated society. It has always been linked to allowing brown skinned people to have pride and dignity in our race and heritage in times when we were treated as second class, second rate citizens. Does Cane think he's superior? Or does he feel his tattoo is a link to his family and his roots as a child of mestizo's here in the states, coming from being a farm laborer.. He has every right to sport that tattoo and be proud of it. I'm not trying to bite your head off, but you assume it has to do with racial superiority when it doesn't.

White Pride has always been about racial superiority. That is the difference. It has never been linked to protest against a segregated society, but used to encourage segregation and racial purity. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :hat

 

This. Stop screaming reverse racism every chance you get.

 

Probably shouldn't use Malcolm X as an example of racial equality.

Malcolm X taught that black people were the original people of the world,[84] and that white people were a race of devils who were created by an evil scientist named Yakub.[85] The Nation of Islam believed that black people were superior to white people, and that the demise of the white race was imminent.[86] When he was questioned concerning his statements that white people were devils, Malcolm X said that "history proves the white man is a devil."[215] He enumerated some of the historical reasons that, he felt, supported his argument: "Anybody who rapes, and plunders, and enslaves, and steals, and drops hell bombs on people... anybody who does these things is nothing but a devil."

While the civil rights movement fought against racial segregation, Malcolm X advocated the complete separation of African Americans from white people. The Nation of Islam proposed the establishment of a separate country for black people in the Southern[87] or Southwestern United States[221] as an interim measure until African Americans could return to Africa.[88] Malcolm X suggested the United States government owed reparations to black people for the unpaid labor of their enslaved ancestors.[222] He also rejected the civil rights movement's strategy of nonviolence and instead advocated that black people should protect themselves by any necessary means.

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MLK now there was a real true equal rights crusader. He is the epitome of what a freedom fighter should be.

 

Fedor Emelianenko's brother has a "Gott Mit Uns" tattoo on his upper back and yet he's not a Nazi. In Russia, Nazi tattoos are usually sported by current and former prisoners who refuse to bow down to the penal system of Russia

 

It´s the asian variant swastika, not the nazi one......I think I read that somewhere, but I don´t know if is true....

Edit - never mind man, the "Heil Hitler thing" it´s new for me....no doubt now, he is a nazi *******....

 

I don't think Haggis is racist. Just uninformed, maybe intellectually lazy on this particular topic. I agree with much of what he says, he brings up quite a few controversial subjects and trolls a bit, but he's not racist.

Comparing something like Brown Pride in the way it is embodied through Velasquez, to the traditional way white pride is used shows a total lack of understanding of the subject matter. People automatically think Brown and White Pride are analagous and have a connection through racism which is false. The tradition of Brown Pride is about garnering dignity for those of the Mestizo background because traditionally we are treated like 2nd class citizens and are considered to be more of a, "help" class. Velasquez fits exactly that mold, he is the son of field laborers who has made something of himself. Not someone who thinks Mexicanos are the master race or anything even close to that.

If I have to give people a history class I don't mind. It's my nature to be a bit cynical and apologies if I go overboard sometimes.

 

Off the top of my head, I'd put the Brown Pride tattoo on the same level as the Celtic Cross tattoos that Irish (-Americans?) get.

 

So basically you are using Cain's tattoo as an excuse for a rant about immigration :roll:

 

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