Why Did Roy Jones Say BERTO FLATFOOT Is Not A Problem ?

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  1. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bob Pappa mentioned it and Jones shot it down -
    Correct me if I am wrong but simply physics says it should be much easier to move around the ring and avoid punches when you are off your heels and on your toes. Berto gets hit too easy and being so athletic it seems odd he would not fight on his toes. obviously being that his last name is berTOE it should be a given.

    How do you feel this aspect plays into his getitng hit and tiring vs Ortiz and last night vs Eurodude?
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It's a problem for Berto because it'd be better for him to move around, but for some fighters, it'd be better if they were more flat footed.
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Not being a dick, but I guess because he believes it better suits his style and best attributes.
     
  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I feel you Reppin. I was just curious how could it suit him ? Berto is so athletic has great pop, smart dude, hard worker not to mention he is shorter flat footed. U know what he is referring to maybe for power ?
     
  5. Requiem4Hvywht

    Requiem4Hvywht Well-Known Member Full Member

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    U don't want to be on your toes to box and move. That is a misconception. Berto simply needs to move his feet after he punches. No excuse for him noy using his feet. That's just bad fundamentals on his part.
     
  6. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    when berto was on the outside he would get on his toes which gave him added leverage on those great body shots that he threw, though he only did it about twice. he fights relying on his strength too much, and it gets him in trouble with bigger opponents who have some speed to match. if he jabbed and counter punched, fighting on his toes would be great.
    but he fought like a young bernard hopkins, dominating on the inside with hard rights, holding, head butting, and throwing combinations. i was impressed at how well he took the shots from his opponent, though i fear if the fight went farther he would've been spent after the seventh round. he put a lot of energy in each shot he threw that fight
     
  7. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For entertainment sake I hope he stays flatfooted, but as a fan I hope he moves a bit more, I think he'd be more effective that way. It seems to me like he gets tired easy though.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yeah I think Berto's flat footed-ness would be fine if he used it when in a defensive moment when shelled up. His best offensive flurries are when he gets that little hop and bounce you can see in his shoulders/neck. When he is flat footed in the pocket, damn he gets tagged on the inside way too much.
     
  9. bachatu

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    I think he made the point that he sort of has to be to fight the style that he fights as in throwing a lot of power punches in combinations.
     
  10. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    He gave a bit of explanation, he said that most guys don't get flat footed enough when they set to throw. I think he felt that by Berto being more flat footed it allowed him to punch with more conviction and do more damage. Which fits with Bertos limited but effective skill set. I would use Devon Alexander as the other extreme for this example. He'd be better served to plant, dig in, and throw some shots with some stank on them. That's what I thought he ment.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Yeah he burns alot of nervous energy, similar to Jermain Taylor, always looks tight and nervous. If he could relax and allow things to happen at it's own pace hex be fine.
     
  12. bRoNeR**a**G

    bRoNeR**a**G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He does have a Jermain Tayloresque attitude when he fights. Loads up on combos designed to take you out and gasses in doing so. As you touched on he seems very tense as well, burning energy.
     
  13. jimmie

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    Berto's flatfootness will come to hurt him agianst the right opponet he will have to be more multi dimensional. For the time being though I think his style is great usually a guy with his athletic ability will fight moving away or side to side but to me something is unique about a guy who has that kind of speed and power and rips uppercuts and bodyshots and wants to put pressure on guys its very difficult to deal with. Its like Mike Tyson in many ways. Very fun to watch and id favor Berto over everyone at 147 besides the top 3.
     
  14. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think that Jones meant that it was okay for a boxer to stay in the pocket as long as his defense in the pocket is solid enough to allow it. Berto, however, is a punching bag when it comes to defense. There are ways (Toney, Floyd) to be offensive and defensive in the pocket.
     
  15. irishny

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    For a guy who seemed to rely so much on physical gifts in his fighting years, Jones has an incredible knowledge of the technicala side of boxing.

    Could make a good trainer.