Lesnar vs Overeem! ITS ON!!!

You guys are funny

 

Im going with Scurla on this Overeem is gonna spank him hard. Thing is when he was champion people went overboard with the hype...i was very critical but still i think Lesnar is a good fighter and no matter what it wont be easy to beat him...if he keeps fighting without injuries then Lesnar could still develop and massive respect now for him...8th fight and fighting Overeem. Puts boxing to shame.

 

Second that.....as long as the UFC dont **** things in MMA then im all for a the best fighting the best.

 

I'm very excited about this matchup. It's good whichever way it turns out. Part of me wants Overeem to make a splash because he's Dutch. But I also want to see Brock go in there and stop him in exciting fashion, because I have become converted from being a Brock hater to a fan.

I think Overeem takes it, but ****, if Brock can steamroll him, take him down and get mount, then it doesn't take many hammerfists before it's over. It's such a shame that the intestinal bull**** robbed him of the strength that he'd built his entire game around for his whole life. :-(

:hat

 

Not sure if your trolling, no need for laughter we are on stage doing stand up. Fact is Fedor was champion lost Werdum who lost to Overeem.

The main thing is to concentrate on postivity....the winner of Lesnar/ Reem will fight JDS/ Cain.


I personally think Cain is gonna come out the winner.... of all this. Really like him, very humble then JDS and Reem are nice guys too.


Strikeforce winner is either Silva or Barnett.

My predication

Velaquez Wtkor3 J. Dos Santos

Overeem Wkor2 B. Lesnar



Velaquez Wtkor2 Overeem

 

Not trolling fella, just cant take this Overeem hype seriously until he convincingly beats a top 10 HW, and not get the W in a who looks worse contest like the Werdum fight. KOdding Brock in the 1st round with one punch like Ive been reading in this thread would be a step in the right direction

Dont really take the lineal Champ thing too seriously either, especially when you consider that Big Nog for example has been facing better competition than Fedor between the PRIDE demise and the Werdum fight

Reem is 3 fights away from being the No1 imo, you pretty much layed out what he has to do right here, Brock, JDS/Cain, SF HW tournament Champ

 

Ubereem by KO for sure!

 

Fair points, his comp hasnt been the best...but still he has improved to a high level. His victories over Rogers and Werdum show he is a good fighter..and his succes in K1.

Is he unbeatable...well no but he is deffo top 3 right now.

JDS has won via decision against Nelson, does anyone really think Overeem wouldnt blast out Nelson? Styles make fights..Overeem get far to much flak for the Werdum fight, of course he is not going to roll with him...its Werdum game. Do you think JDS would have rolled with him? I watched the fight just now and Fabricio was standing trading and not flopping to the floor...if he employed the same tactics then JDS would have won a boring fight just the same.

Velaquez looked shaky versus Kongo but so what..Cain has improved since then just like Werdum is far better fighter than he has ever been and the Overeem win shows Alistair is the top man.

Sometimes people go on and on about certain fights when in reality its far more complex than this guy beat this guy therefore he is better.

You dont have to take it seriously...but Lineal exists to separate the hype...Fedor was the main man, if Slyvia, Arlovski, Rogers etc are poor than id have to disagree with you on that.

Anyhow its all pointless, the main thing is matchups are happening when you look at Boxing, Pac and Mayweather dosent look like it happening and thats going on 3 years.

Povetkin is able to avoid fighting the main man and call him self a champion.

 

MMA is not like boxing. It did not start with a linear championship, that later split into different organizations. With MMA, you had a PRIDE champion and a champion from the UFC. While PRIDE existed, it had the better heavyweights, and Fedor was clearly the better champion. Since PRIDE's demise, Fedor has not faced top notch opposition, and the UFC belt rose in stature. When you have champions that are not facing each other, all you can do is compare what their most recent accomplishment were.

Werdum defeated Fedor, but was clearly not the best fighter in the UFC. Then Overeem, who had done nothing as a heavyweight in mma, is awarded a decision over Werdum because he has better posture. Or Werdum lose for making the bout too ugly. However you want to say it, it was a shitty performance.

I think that Dos Santos and Velasquez both were ranked higher than Werdum before his bout with Overeem, and the fight between those JDS and Cain will determine who the top guy in the division is.

 

Overeem is going to kill this guy maybe literally. I think the only chance is Overeem slips on a kick or something and Brock gets on top and uses his brutal top game. I dont even see Brock securing a takedown, Overeem knows its coming and his own wrestling and strength is very impressive.

 

I don't have a lot of faith in Overeem to be honest. Watch any of his performances, K1 or mma. If you open up on him, he just covers up and waits for you to stop. He doesn't try to parry, use his footwork, or offer up much in the way of countering. If Brock opens up with a barrage, he can close the distance. Even if Brock gets hurt, if Brock can avoid a big knee, he may very well weather the storm. If Overeem unleashes on Brock anything like Carwin or Velasquez, and doesn't get the stoppage, he will be shot. Overeem doesn't have great stamina.

With the way Lesnar has reacted to being hit, I can understand why you think Overeem should win. I just don't think all of you should be so sure about it.

If Overeem goes out, lands something big and finishes things, I will not be surprised. If this becomes anything like Brocks fights with Carwin and Cain, and Overeem can't finish early, Lesnar will smash him before he gets his 2nd wind.

 

Well I find it hard to judge how much he has improved. Rogers, was, is and forever will be a lump with a right hand. Of course Reem dealt with him accordingly, but a blow out against a guy barely in the top 10 isnt a justification for a top 3 spot. Beating someone in the top 3 is

And Werdum shows what a poor MMA fighter Overeem is. Fabricio would have taken that fight if he hadnt pulled guard so much. No I dont expect Reem to follow him to the ground, Fedor made that mistake and payed dearly for it. But that's the crux of the issue, neither men could impose their own gameplans on the other, but Werdum was more willing, and indeed more sucessful at playing Alistairs game and OUTSTRUCK him for portions of that match. Not in anyway a justification for a top 3 spot, forget about the Werdum v Fedor win. This is about what Alistair has achieved. Not a justification for a top 3 spot when you consider that was the only top 10 HW on his resume in a good few years.

His sucess in K1 means nowt for his MMA rankings. Do you consider James Toney's boxing record when ranking him, or his inability to enforce that strikingadvantage on his opponent in the Courture fight. The same goes for the Werdum fight

I keep reading about what Overeem ''Could'' do, but what has he actually done? Of course he ''could'' beat Roy, like he ''could'' have knocked out Werdum, but he didnt did he, didnt come anywhere near ko'ing Fabricio.

Now maybe getting beat by JDS had an effect on FW's tactics, but JDS still went out and imposed his game plan on Werdum, Overeem, who ''could'' beat Nelson, actually didnt impose his on Werdum. And Werdum was more than willing to engage Overeem when it became clear he was fighting not to lose, rather than win in impressive fashion like JDS did.

Yeah he did look shaky. Name one example of Overeem winning a fight in a similar fashion. Because he tends to fold mentally at the 1st hurdle as I remember it.

Again you are ranking Reem on what Fedor achieved, and by proxy what Werdum achieved by beating him. This actually means **** all.

 

Why the **** are so many people getting the idea that Overeem has awesome takedown defense simply because he's a big roidhead? There's nothing in his resume to prove that he can stop a D1 wrestler's shot.

 

Would have saved me a hell of alot of writing if Id seen this before posting and added a +1

 

Im perplexed too, perhaps they are mistaking Duffee running chin 1st towards him as a shot :huh