Pascal-Cloud December 10

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  1. The Akbar One

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    I was referring to the first Hopkins vs Pascal fight. The referee allowed Pascal to continuously foul with rabbit punches. Had points been properly deducted for the 30+ instances, there would have been no controversy in the first fight, because the judges would have had to deduct points from Pascal, and the draw would have ended up a Hopkins Unanimous decision. Rabbit punches can be debilitating, and negatively have an effect on a fighter. Several of the rabbit punches were hard shots. Pascal's best punch of the fight was probably the rabbit punch that put Hopkins down for the third time.

    I was saying that I don't think Pascal can beat Cloud unless he gets a little help from the judges or the ref.
     
    The Akbar One, Sep 8, 2011
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  2. The Akbar One

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    Agreed.
     
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  3. The Akbar One

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    While I agree that Cloud's power seems a little over rated, you don't wobble Glen Johnson being feather fisted. If Hopkins can buzz, or hurt Pascal momentarily, Cloud will definitely be able to.
     
    The Akbar One, Sep 8, 2011
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  4. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I definitly agree. Amd those power punch make Pascal losing is " équilibre "

    Sorry for the french can't find the right word in english
     
    Badlok, Sep 9, 2011
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  5. Badlok

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    And hopkins his a clean fighter ? if you look at hopkins complaining all his opponents would have lost points because Bhop always crying in the ring but this time the ref didn't buy it . Hopkins said he won 8 rounds, if you make the count 8 rounds - 2 falls = DRAW , fair judging.

    In the second fight , it was a close fight . If this fight would have happens in the state or in Germany the home fighter would have probably have the win. And then you could have say it's was bad judging. GYM are too small to lose there credibility this way , so the judging in Canada isn't worst then anywhere else in the world and it's probably better then a lot of country.
     
    Badlok, Sep 9, 2011
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  6. Badlok

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    I don't say he got no power but power isn't his biggers strenght . I think Cloud got decent power but Pascal got a good chin.
     
    Badlok, Sep 9, 2011
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  7. BOGART

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    Amir Khan is suppose to be on HBO on that date. I can't see him fighting in Canada so I'm not sure how everything plays out here.
     
    BOGART, Sep 9, 2011
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  8. Badlok

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    maybe double header ?
     
    Badlok, Sep 9, 2011
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  9. persianprince

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    :happy:happy Honestly the second Bhop-Pascal showed, that Canada is not corrupt like Germany or US.
     
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  10. Badlok

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    that's **** me off when people talking about robbery here when our boxers lose close decision.
     
    Badlok, Sep 9, 2011
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  11. BOGART

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    Maybe a split site doubleheader like HBO occasionaly does but most of their fights come from the same site. I'd prefer Cloud-Pascal over Khan-Peterson but HBO loves Khan and if its not a split site card than someone might have to move their proposed date.
     
    BOGART, Sep 9, 2011
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  12. Badlok

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    On Boxrec Pascal and Khan are set for December 10th . GYM wanted the fight on December 17th but the Bell Center isn't available on that date. I can't believe that HBO wouldn't show Pascal-Cloud. We will have more answer this week , propably on Thursday
     
    Badlok, Sep 9, 2011
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  13. saul_ir34

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    Cloud beats Pascal by possible TKO later on when Pascal gasses.

    Cloud can throw 1000+ punches a fight and keep going. The type of pressure he will put on Pascal will make his gas and by the 10th he should be ready to take him out.

    It sounds like people are sleeping on Cloud. I think he is very underrated. Guy has a chin, a punch and stamina. Last guy that faced Pascal like that beat him. That was Froch.
     
    saul_ir34, Sep 9, 2011
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  14. T.C.W

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    Is it on HBO or Showtime
     
    T.C.W, Sep 9, 2011
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  15. Badlok

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    Suppose to be on HBO but Bogart make me doubt . When i learn that the fight will be made the guy told me it would be on HBO though!
     
    Badlok, Sep 9, 2011
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