Marquez: It would be better if the fight was at 140, 141

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  1. PH|LLA

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    Mayweather has a bigger size advantage over Pac than Pac has over Marquez.

    Mayweather couldn't even make 144lbs against Marquez.
     
  2. Doc

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    Arum and roach set the rules Pac the puppet just performs. So shut up, JMM went to the offices of Arum while Pac was in Pilipines and they formed a deal, JMM wanted some things changed and he had them, ARUM and JMM made the deal... PAC was just told to sign about 2 weeks later.

    And at the thread title, It would have been better at 140 for the fans and showing that you are a better man then Mayweather, giving a more even playing field, to prevent you from Bulking up like Mayweather did... If PAC comes in weighing more then 148 it will prove that his team's plans were to bulk PAC up for JMM and it will be hilarious him weighing the most he has ever weighed for a JMM trilogy which 140 would have prevented.
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    exactly
     
  4. BigReg

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    I don't believe so. Mayweather and Pacquiao walk around at about the same weight and compete in the same divsion. Marquez competes at LW, and now people are saying it's unsafe for Pac to even go down to 141.
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    it's not unsafe it would just disadvantage him even more when he faces bigger fighters like Floyd down the road.
     
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    Except manny is not a WW and he does not cut weight to make 147... He feeds himself lots of food and even wakes up in the night to have shakes and food and doesn't EVEN come in at 147 but 144... Pac is a JR WW, who doesn't rely on being the bigger fighter, so cutting to 140 would not affect him as much as a regular WW would who barely makes it 147 and rehydrates to 155+...

    140 Meant 4 pound difference, trying to save face for the fans and try and make it as legit as possible so you can get more credit. Meant not waking up in the middle of the night to be force fed by Ariza.... but whatever watch when PAC comes in the heaviest he ever has... Just like May the pretty girl bulking for the little LW.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    at the end of the day whether it's 140 or 144 haters gonna hate
     
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    Pacquiao fought Hoya at 147, then Hatton at 140 and the Cotto at 145. If Pac still needs to take in 7,000+ calories a day while training for WW bouts, then it shouldn't be a problem to shuffle between 140 and 147. If he was cutting a bunch of weight, it would be a problem, but he's not.
     
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    140 more credit in making the fight as legit as possible, saving face for the fans, but whatever I've already stated my opinions.... The fight is 144 so who gives a **** now. PAC just won him a no win situation and other then a KO win, he will get bad PR if JMM makes it competitive and it goes the distance.
     
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    Exactly he doesn't cut weight like a Normal WW, he adds weight to even make it to WW, so the dehydrating **** is irrelevant it just meant going 4 pounds lower and being force fed less. But whatever deal signed and delivered.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    Even if he can make 140 really easily, it's not a good idea to shuffle non-stop between 140 and 147. Better try to keep your body as adjusted to 147 as possible so that a bigger guy like Floyd doesn't have as much of an advantage as he would if you had just fought at 140 and then moving up to 47.
     
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    even at 140 it's a no win situation. JMM has never even fought at 140.
     
  13. BigReg

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    Again, he fought Hoya at 147, then Hatton at 140, then Cotto at 145. Mayweather is not a big WW. Weight really wouldn't be a factor in that fight.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    Cotto is not as good as Mayweather. Neither was a past prime Oscar who was cutting to 147. Even though Pac was moving up against those guys he easily overcomed it. Mayweather is a better opponent than both those and would not be coming down in weight while Manny is smaller than him and would be moving up in weight.

    I disagree that weight would not be a factor.
     
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    Actually most were in agreement that at 140 he would get more credit instead of no credit at 144, not because JMM has fought there before but only a small tune up, but because it would show that he was trying to be as fair as possible to legitimize the fight as much as possible for the fans. Middle ground will always be better in everyone's eyes... and Pac would have gotten more credit as I and other stated. But Pac's team didn't care about that, they will take every advantage they can get and when PAC weighs more then 148 it will prove why they shot for 144 catch.