David Haye put up a better effort than Adamek, it's time to accept it folks!!

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  1. Ivo

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    Absolutely, he's a disgrace to British boxing and the younger boxers like kahn, Groves who look up to him but they're the ones who are having to their country proud and show respect to the sport by actually taking risks and fighting anyone who comes in their path.

    There is no doubt in my mind haye would have got a similar battering had he faced Vitali. As good as wlad is, he isn't a predator from hell willing to chase every minute of every round and stand toe to toe with his opponent trading shots on the inside.

    This is why it's dumb to compare who put up the better battle because both klitschos have different styles, one is no nonsense brutality, another is patient, methodical fighter.
     
  3. Ivo

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    Does someone think there is only one klit brother or something? How can u compare the twwo fights?
     
  5. steve w

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    Why are we still discussing Haye in the present tense, unless he has a fight before October, is he not retired? Let us pretend he never existed.
     
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    Haye has the better assets (handspeed, mobility) and fought "cleverer" than adamek in that he managed to steer clear of major damage different to Adamek who didnt want to do that /didnt have the possibilities to be mostly negative like Haye. Haye imo is the more gifted fighter of the two but in direct comparison loses by default because he flopped to the canvas intentionally every time wlad applied some pressure. Haye is supposed to be a heavyweight fighter and not a canvas gymnast.
     
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    Great the debate who is the bigger loser.
     
  8. Piye

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    Haye won three rounds and rocked Wlad; Adamek got beaten to a pulp and was TKO'd almost as brutally as Vitali was against LEwis.
     
  9. Jan(DK)

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    Haye and Holyfield vs. Valuev fought the same fight, and people thinks Holyfield won....:huh


    (Never seen a winning fighter missing so many punches :-()
     
  10. Vidic

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    Haye actually won rounds
     
  11. SomeGuy101

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    What a joke...if Adamek wanted to he'd have come in lighter and ran around the ring...he tried to box he's not a counter puncher.

    Haye fans reaching now...getting a little desperate; pickings are slim eh?
     
  12. Peter Brit

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    Haye has fought hit and run as a heavyweight e.g. avoiding getting tagged and assuming he can take wladimir out with one big shot. Poor tactics 'yes', but it won him a title. Haye has the skills, my feeling is his heart was no longer in the sport for the last couple of years. Haye failed to bring a plan 'B', failed to mix it up so Wladimir could time him. In fact it was an awful attacking performance by Haye. Yet he still has Wladimir holding on to him in the final round after he tagged Wladimir.

    Haye could have thrown 50% more punches, landed far better punches and forced Wladimir to fight. His famed hayemaker is by far his slowest punch, tires him out, leaves him off balance and the easiest to avoid. He only threw it at cruiser level when guys were in trouble because he would hit jack **** with it. Attacking wise Haye was poor, his failure to mix it up made him easier for Wladimir to time. Massive under performance and yet he was still a lot better than Adamek.

    You forget Wladimir reflexs and speed is better than Vitali.Vitali would have to bully Haye none stop. Given Haye's lack of stamina, Vitali could exhausted Haye with not having to land a big punch to put him down.

    I still feel Haye could beat both brothers, if he trained properly and left the hayemaker out of his punching gameplan. Look at the one two he dropped Ruiz with going backwards, that combination put Ruiz down quicker than any hayemaker Haye has ever thrown and that is two punches landing in less time. The fact Haye landed his hayemaker on Wladimir means he would have no problem landing proper punches.

    Yes I am still annoyed at Haye's performance because he so underperformed. Adamek is just to easy to hit, lacks heayweight power.
     
  13. Mad Londoner

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    Shut up jelous yank......Haye for 1.took wlads best punches(wlad is defo the bigger hitter of the 2)...2.hurt wlad in the last round(shows he carries his power late)
    Adamek was MAULED...being stupid enough to stay in range against a boxer like vitali who has good power was just plain stupid.....If adamek would have fought wlad....wlad would of ko'd adamek with a jab......Haye is AND always WILL be BETTER than ADAMEK.
     
  14. MasterStyle

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    Adamek Haye should be made, i give it 60-40 for David
     
  15. Mad Londoner

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    You miss the point....haye "intentionally" flopped to the canvas was INFACT a tactic....As we all know wlad being a much bigger fighter tends to lean on his opponents to tire them out......haye was having none of it so part of the tactic was to just "fall" to the canvas......And it worked......as he wasn't worn out by wlads BIG frame....