Your Full McCloskey - Prescott scorecard

Because the referee counted it as a knockdown. Not to deliberately pick on Abner Mares again, but the KD's he scored against Vic Darchinyan and Joseph Agbeko were no more or less legitimate than the one last night, yet they are scored as knockdowns and considered official. The same should apply to what happened in the McCloskey/Prescott fight. The judges score a knockdown, and so should we IMO.

 

Really? That's nonsense imo. Referees make mistakes, judges have the benefit of replays and can and have overruled bad knock down decisions, Pac v Mosley being the latest that springs to mind.

So let's take an exaggerated example. what if a corrupt or disgracefully inept ref unfairly deducts some points from a boxer causing him to lose the fight he otherwise would have won, is that fair game simply because ref called it?

 

RJJ's 'KD' against Calzaghe was also not from a legit punch (more of a forearm smash) but all three judges scored it 10-8.

And in Britain the refs don't have the benefit of replays.

 

That's simply not fair, so I don't know why you would be encouraging such a method. Mares' knockdowns should have been overruled by the judges.

 

The thing is, how often does a referee call a knockdown and the judges don't score it? Very, very rarely. If the referee calls a knockdown, I score it. The judges apparently do to, and although that may not be the rule that applies to every fight, it's the one that is followed almost universally. Almost everyone who scored that fight gave that round 10-8 to Prescott because of the knockdown. I suspect the judges did too. That's just how people score fights. You fellas are very much in the minority here.

And Slap, how did you have McCloskey 'shading' that round? It was as clear a round for Breidis Prescott as any.

 

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It's entirely fair. If it had happened in reverse you wouldn't be making this argument at all. Prescott got a raw deal last night.

 

i had it a draw or prescott 1 round up

 

:huh You go with the ref. Now, if you had McCloskey clearly winning the round, you can give it 10-9 Prescott rather than 10-8. But I had Prescott winning it anyway, so scored it 10-8.

 

Of course I would, stop being childish.

 

That's how I scored it 115-113...:good

 

I'm unconvinced of your impartiality in this matter. Also, the fact is the ref called it a KD. If the judges had free reign to ignore the ref they could also ignore dubious low blow point deductions.

 

I had it six rounds a piece with the KD giving the decision to Prescott> McCloskeys reflexes seemed slower and he had huge problems with Prescotts reach but credit to Paul he took the early setback/bleeding nose and came back strong even having to change his style and go chase the fight. Needs to go for that fight with Maidana know, not sure if he can do it but it's now or never.

 

On the knockdown and scoring....

The subject was discussed on HBO last night. Lederman gave a 10-8 round to Vitali despite no KD. This was the round early in the fight where Adamek was staggered back and kept up on by ropes. Lederman said you don't have to score based on what the referee does. He felt it should have been a KD as the ropes kept him up. If you think a KD is a bad call then you don't have to give it.
You are being asked to score the fight. You are not being asked on how you think a judge will.



And how anyone gave McCloskey that last round I'll never know. Said in RBR, crowd won the fight for McCloskey. Anything that McC threw was cheered even if it hit fresh air or Prescotts gloves.

 

I don't give a **** how convinced you are.

They should have free reign to overrule dubious point deductions.

And if you think a boxer being punished by having a knockdown that clearly wasn't a knockdown as being "entirely fair", well then I'm glad you don't run boxing.