Your Full McCloskey - Prescott scorecard

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  1. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was a 10-8 round without a doubt. It was a clear knock down. It's fitting only last night we saw a perfect example of it on the opposite side of the coin.
     
  2. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    Not looking for an argument.

    But simply no you dont go with the ref. If you as a judge think you a better placed to call the punch being illegitimate then the judge can discount the count. Thats the rule mate.

    I didnt say I have McCloskey clearly winning the round. I said I had him shading it up to that point.

    That round could have been scored 10-8 or 10-9 for Prescott or 10-9 for McCloskey the reasons I've already out outlined.
     
  3. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.
    I believe that deducting points when told to by the referee is mandatory though.
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Is that the rule???? You have to go with the referee is he deducts even if you don't agree, is how I've always known the rule to be.
     
  5. artful

    artful *practice makes perfect* Full Member

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    Prescott was cheated not defeated. :deal
     
  6. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My understanding is you must deduct if the refs tells you too but scoring of knockdowns is somewhat open to interpretation.
     
  7. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lederman scored the fight for Alexander against Kotelnik so I wouldn't trust his judgement.

    If a judge deems that fighter A has out-boxed fighter B in a round, then s/he will score the round 10 points for fighter A, and 9 points for fighter B. If fighter B is knocked down by fighter A, and receives a standing count, then the round is scored 10 points to fighter A and 8 points to fighter B. If the judge decides that neither fighter won a round, then he will score it 10 points to each fighter.
    If a fighter is penalized by the referee (such as for multiple low blows), then the referee will turn to each ring-side judge individually and instruct him to deduct a point for that fighter from their score card for that round.
     
  8. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lederman scorecards can be a hoot no doubt but your statement on scoring isn't correct. It is not automatically a 10-8 if there is a knockdown ruled. (see Pac v Cotto)
     
  9. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    which round?

    the KD's in rounds the 3rd & 4th rounds were counted if I remember correctly.

    the Mosley fight I believe was also officially called a KD as well and was scored by the judges as well - the one relating to Pacquiao.
     
  10. The Batkilt

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    I scored it exactly the same. If Prescott had sharpened up his attacks when they were getting sloppy during the later rounds I think he'd have been able to win by a couple. As it happened he let McCloskey back in the fight far too much.
     
  11. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was a knockdown but it was scored 10-9 as Cotto had the the better of the round.
     
  12. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd need to watch the fight again and score it to fully remember, I haven't watched it since I saw it live.

    However the non-knockdown against Mosley was scored against Pacquiao.
     
  13. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    It was but the judges gave it 10-9 Mosley instead of 10-8 because not only was it not a KD but Shane clearly lost the round.
     
  14. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But the point is a judge has the option not to score it. Not saying they do it often but they are allowed to do so.

    Here is the official scoring for Pac v Cotto (first 3).
    For round 3, two of the judges gave it 10-9 despite Cotto being put on his ass.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ys-scorecards111409
     
  15. HamburgBuam

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    117:110 for Prescott.