**** Kirk's ESB Championships 2011 ****

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  1. kirk

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    The Gist
    Where we weigh in with how we think the fight will play out. Open to anyone to voice how they think the fight goes down.

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    I respect both of these warriors a ton, and expect nothing less then a good scrap come saturday night. I do think however, that as good as adamek is, and he is good... that hes simply too small for the type of fighter he is, and his attributes, to overcome vitali, even an aged one. I expect Adamek to make a real go of it though, and I think he will possibly win more rounds then anyone has since Lewis, with his movement and combination punching, but at the end of the day I simply think it wont be enough, while vitali I feel is ready for the taking, I simply dont think Adamek has the quality to do it... and I expect to see Vitali win a UD over the always game Adamek.


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    Lot's has been said already about this fight, but the question actually is; "Can Adamek stay upright up until the end?"
    If the answer is "yes" he does have a decent chance, because of his movement, workrate and the fight taking place in Poland.
    After seeing the training vids he doesn't have to hope Vitali turning old overnight (or it really has to happen overnight) or Vitali not taking his opponent seriously, cause obviously he does.

    The biggest problem for Tomasz in this bout is what I call the "Scotty syndrome"... He just "hasn't got the power" at heavyweight...
    This is why he can't stop Vitali in his tracks, has to punch and move from the start of round 1 until the end of round 12 and don't get caught by too many of Vitali's (big) punches.
    Klitschko's biggest problem is he has shown problems with quick and moving fighters since his comeback, so he has to cut of the ring better and try to nail Tomasz to the ropes. If he can't he may have a problem with the judges I guess, but if he can I don't believe it won't even go there.

    I expect an exciting fight with both having a high punchoutput for heavies.
    Vitali constanly taking the middle of the ring and Tomasz constantly boxing around him, left to right/right to left.
    Klitschko will eventually be able to walk Adamek down due to lack of punchingpower and reach, and win by T/KO.

    Vitali Klitschko by T/KO 7th or 8th round.


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    Adamek is a warrior and one brave SOB but he is outmatched against the best HW of this decade.

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    The WEIGH IN
    VITALI - 242.9lbs / 110.2 kg
    ADAMEK - 216lbs / 98kg



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  2. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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    Segura TKO
    Gonzalez TKO
     
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  4. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Did the Ola Afolabi fight not count?
     
  5. kirk

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    This is where we pit two past prime fighters against eachother and see who picks who to win, and who comes out the victor.

    All matchups are open to vote by anyone who has placed a pick for the league this year. The voting never stops so if two months from now you place a pick for a matchup we already did, just quote the matchup and cast your vote and I will get it added.

    This is not who has a better legacy, but who would in a fight between the two, the majority of the time.

    Now, lets pit the best vs the best and see whos left standing when the dust settles.

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    For the second matchup, a young, prime Vitali Klitschko goes up against a young, undefeated George Foreman. Pitting the iron chinned giant vs the power punching bull. Who wins? You decide.




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    Vitali Klitschko
    43-2 (40 KO's)
    Height - 6'7
    Weight - 245lbs
    Reach - 80''

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDbbHGScNBM[/ame]


    VS


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    George Foreman
    76-5 (68 KO's)
    Height - 6'3''
    Weight - 220lbs
    Reach - 82''

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL7KnkWWXbQ[/ame]


    Vitali vs Foreman
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    Our Picks: Vitali vs Foreman


    Vitali
    By Stoppage


    By UD





    Foreman
    By Stoppage




    By UD


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  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    :twisted: YEAH, DiD IT NOT COUNT?!!! :fire:fire:fire
     
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    It didnt count.... sorry guys :!: He wound up fighting some 9-10 gimme....
     
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    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I know he did, it was great for us! :lol:... It would have been, anyway. :twisted:
     
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  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    :wooo

    That was a nice weekend for me!
    Thanks for the updates Kirk, and you probably feel this one coming for the fantasy matchup (Vitali vs Foreman)
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    :good

    My picks:

    09/15 - Julio Cesar Miranda vs. Giovani Segura - Interim WBO Flyweight title
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    09/15 - Jhonny Gonzalez vs. Rogers Mtagwa - WBC Featherweight title
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    I'll probably do the rest of my picks for the weekend later this day.
     
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    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Robney... you are really starting to rise through the ranks and do some damage m'man, and the peoples champ... damn good :good
     
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    I'm going vitali by ud... I know I'm crazy but I just think vitali wouldn't be there for foreman to hit, while vitali is able to do enough through the rounds to win a close ud.
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    My second half of the year thus far is significantly better as my first half, starting to get the hang of it probably. It's that or just being more lucky on the 50/50 picks lately :yep
     
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    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    :yep Robney should start making long detailed predictions. He's on fire right now. :yep
     
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    09/17 - Saul Alvarez vs. Alfonso Gomez - WBC Light Middleweight title
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    09/17 - Erik Morales vs. Pablo Cesar Cano - WBC Light Welterweight title
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    09/17 - Jessie Vargas vs. Josesito Lopez
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    09/17 - Craig McEwan vs. Kassim Ouma
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    Segura KO, Gonzalez TKO, Alvarez TKO, Floyd UD, Morales TKO, Lopez SD, McEwan UD
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    :D Maybe on Floyd vs Ortiz later in the week... Not planning to become another you :good