Aint it time for a Super Heavyweight Division?

Y'all musta forgot about Tyson Fury, who hit Derek Chisora with 4 hooks at one time. :smoke

 

i've said in other threads that height and weight make a massive difference in heavyweight boxing, and that a 6'4" 230lb boxers will generally be better than 6' 200lb boxers and that was really controversial.
I had all these people saying how stupid i was for saying that.

I think the top division should always be the heavyweight division, and if anything they should change the weight limits of other weights, maybe lhw at 180 and cruiser at 210.
But i dont think that this would make much difference, the prestige will still be with the top weight. Adamek haye etc didnt move up because they had to, they moved up because thats where the glory and money is. people are far more interested in the top weight.
If we had a 230lb + division we'd still get the much smaller guys trying to move up because there will be more money there and more prestige

 

They should also make a Super Duper Mega Heavyweight division for SNV. He will be champion for life.

 

That would be a terrible thing.
Imagine Klitschko's list of best wins in a proposed "superheavyweight division":

- Julius Long
- Tye Fields
- Dereck Lampkins
- Michael Grant
- Alexander Ustinov
- ... erm... Bob Sapp?

:nut

Who needs that sort of division?

 

Every time one of the Klitschko win a fight theres a bunch crying "Unfair!"....

Was it also unfair for 6'4" 225lb George Foreman to defend his world title against 5'9" 192lb Jose Roman? What about 6'3" 217lb Ali vs 6'0" 182lb Patterson or 5'11" 179lb Bob Foster?

 

We don't need more divisions. If Heavyweights and people are getting bigger in general then an adjustment of the current weight divisions would make more sense. In this case the CW and HW divisions if there appears to be too much of a difference between those at the lower end and those at the upper end then increase the CW weight limit. 210lbs would be adequate as most fighters under 230 lbs could make the limit.

 

The problem is that there are no talented opponent for Klitschkos, not anything else. I think prime Tyson would demolish Wlad and possibly stop Vitali as well, I'd favour prime Lewis over them (slightly) and I guess prime Holyfield would also at least give them a competitive fight.

If you think for a moment, another problem is that Klischkos, no matter how tall, are often lighter than their opponents, so creating superheavyweight division wouldn't solve the problem anyway. Wlad vs Rahman, Austin, Peter, Moli, Botha (!), or Vitali vs Williams, Peter, Johnson (Kirk), Briggs would happen anyway.

Yet another problem, already mentioned, is where the limit should be. If you make it at 225 or above, Klitschkos are going to make it easily... if you set it at 220 or below it makes not much sense either as good part of other HW would struggle with that as well.

 

Well people did think it was unfair, and that's why they added the 190lb cruiserweight division.
Then people thought it was still unfair so made cruiser 200lb.

But it is stupid that people try to diminish wlad/vitali/lennox achievements by saying its only because of their size.
Size is an attribute the same as speed, stamina, footwork etc

 

I wouldnt really agree that there is no one for them to face, there is still helenius, povetkin, fury, boytsov, dimitrenko and pulev that haven't faced either, and wlad still has opponents that only vitali has faced and vice versa.

There is never really any more than 3 or 4 really good hws in a division at any time.

 

So let me get this straight. A lot of the guys who repeteadly say how the Klitschkos aren't ATGs and any champion from the past would beat them, now ask for a super HW division? Why? According to you, as soon as the next great HW emerges the Klitschkos will have no chance right? :deal

 

Lewis and Bowe were no small fellas.

 

Thats what I have been saying for a while when you have a 40 pound advantage in weight thats like a feather weight fighting a middle weight or a middleweight fighting a small heavy and if they dont match middle weights against heavys why are they allowing that much difference in weight someone will get hurt badly which is the reason we have the different weight classes to begin with

there are enough big guys in the top 20 to get this going make the divison happen before someone ends up dead

 

Let's concentrate on the dumbest argument heard over and over in this thread.

"Boxing already has too many divisions."

Well, duh. The small guys have plenty (eg too many) divisions. And even with so many divisions, they STILL have catchweight fights. If a super middleweight and a middleweight need to agree to fight at 164 for it to be fair, then how are you going to tell me that a fight where one boxer has 40 lbs and 5 inches in height on the other is fair?

The "too many divisions" problem is real but it doesn't apply to the big guys. The big guys don't have good matches because they when they are matched they aren't physically similar to one another. One dude relies on his reach, the other on his endurance. Generally, one dude chases the other.

You think of the best heavyweight fights of recent years--Lewis-Klitschko, Liakovitch-Brewster etc. Here we have guys with similar physical attributes warring on each other. Povetkin-Chagaev also should have been a good fight because of their physical similarities but Chagaev was tenative and disappointing.

 

Aint it time for a Super Heavyweight Division?


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Long overdo. There is no place in boxing today for guys weighing just over 200. On the other hand lighter weight classes are seperated by an absurd 2 or 3 pounds.

 

Some just cant accept euro dominance it seems. Lewis got much flack too. If Deontay Wilder(6′ 7″, one inch higher Wlad, half an inch shorter than Vitali ) or another huge american begins to dominate, they will have no problems.