Once Haye stepped into the ring with Wlad, he quickly realized...

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  1. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Exactly and Klitschko fans are blowing this win up like Wlad really went out there and put it on Haye, Wlad didnt do that because Wlad too got a taste of Hayes power noted the speed and knew better than to just rush him Wlad respected Haye in there becuase Haye Made Wlad respect him.


    So did Wlad what the **** you thinking man? Jabing and grabbing is a **** style of fighting I would rather watch movement good footwork and boxing rather than the bigger man in fear for his life to grab a man hold on to him lean on him etc.... that isnt defending your title thats being a *****.
     
  2. eagleskins

    eagleskins Active Member Full Member

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    His power was no match for Wlads. Wlad was scaring him to death with a jab.
     
  3. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think what most surprised me (and probably surprised Haye) was the footspeed of Wlad. We often overlook that element when we talk about fighters, but it seemed like a key factor in this fight -- every time Haye would lunge in, throwing those big hooks, Wlad would move back quite quickly and Haye was left punching air and looking foolish. Haye was the smaller, more agile man, and he thought he could thus use ambush tactics, but Wlad was quicker than he anticipated. It worked against Valuev, but Wlad is obviously a different animal.

    To be honest, consistently moving back in a straight line and leaning away from shots is usually a bad idea, but Wlad's size advantage and footspeed enabled him to get away with it.
     
  4. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Total punches thrown^

    As you can see, Haye had a similar (or higher) connect percentage for most of the rounds, and also had similar number of actual punches landed, aside from the last few rounds, which were truly pitiful for him in terms of connects.

    While he didn't throw a lot, he was still landing with round about equal frequency or higher to Wlad, which I found surprising
     
  5. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    He also connected more power punches (to be expected a the greater amount of his punches seemed to be looping right hands)

    I think what made a big big difference in this fight was Wlads experience and ring generalship, and obviously his great jab which was able to keep Haye busy and off balance even when not landing

    But Wlad certianly didn't blow him out of the water, I actually think it was somewhat of a chess-match, albiet a slightly uneven one
     
  6. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch Wlad only landed 1 power shot and took it better than Wlad tooks hayes punch in the 12th, it was Haye who had landed the occasional bombs, throughout the fight, Wlad fought like a big ass chump, scared to get buzzed by a cruiser.

    What fight did yall see, like really from what I saw Haye was slipping the Jab for the most part at will, Wlad landed one meanigful straight right, any other meaning punch was landed by Haye, not to mention he had Wlad on the ropes in the 12th. I just hate to see how people here try to spin like Wlad put on a Mayweather Gatti-esqe beating on Haye,, when the truth is Wlad aint do **** but jab, barely landing and lean on the little man whenever he got close.
     
  7. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah his foot spped, he was able to dodge his jab's and straights at will
     
  8. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was scaring him because he wasn't going to allow him to hit him with it? :patsch


    If that's the case, then Wlad was equally scared of Hayes punches, because every time Haye threw a punch, Wlad would avoid them.


    And when Haye did connect in the 12th? Wlad grabbed his ass for close to 8 seconds. I'm not saying he was out on his feet, but clearly he wanted no more of that ****! :nono
     
  9. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He never had him on the ropes
    :huh
    Makes one wander if you're the one that's blind
     
  10. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he never had him on the ropes.


    But he damn sure hurt him.
     
  11. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    So you really gonna act like Wlad wasn't leaning on him, and holding for dear life for 15 seconds, headlock him slam him to the ground all while the ref stood back and let that happen, and Wlad wasn't hurt or on the ropes?:patsch
     
  12. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I just watched it again in the other thread.


    Yeah, he held his ass for like 12 seconds, and the ref just stood there like that **** was OK. The more you watch it, the more you realize how much trouble Wlad was actually in.


    I don't think he was out on his feet, but had Haye been able to connect with anything else during that WWF moment, Wlad would have been in deep ****, because it was early in the round.
     
  13. sbbigmike

    sbbigmike Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This.....

    Just horrible reffing right there, I pretty sure that sapped all of Haye's energy too.

    I can't wait to one of the Kilts get exposed again, they are only dominate cause they are bigger than everybody else
     
  14. GDG

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    Wlad, as fantastic as he is at what he does, does not throw punches going backwards. It's very easy to say when I watched the fight from the comfort of my armchair, but you seem to be at your safest against Wlad when you're going forward throwing punches. Of course, it's tiring given that Wlad will hold and lean as soon as he's able to do so, but you've got to hope the ref would get to grips with this if he were to continuously do so.

    Pete is right in saying that Haye's natural countering style is more condusive to fighting Vitali, but you don't need a Tyson-esque bob 'n' weave defense walking forward against Wlad as he doesn't punch when you're walking towards him!!

    I still doubt he would've won, but he certainly could've been more effective had he been more aggresive.

    Neck and Pete are both right to an extent.
     
  15. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can you read?
    You said he had him on the ropes.
    In fact he never had him on the ropes.
    No one ever said he didn't feel that punch :huh