Just how good is Carl Froch?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bailey, Sep 11, 2011.


  1. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Yasaf Mack put Andrada on his ass???
     
  2. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's a bit delusional, but all in all he's a tough, hard-nosed fighter with considerable skill and good power. He doesn't stand out in any one aspect, but he is a very well rounded fighter. I think when it's all said and done he will finish his career at the 4-5 loss mark.
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    BS. Im on his ignore list so he comes onto a thread ive started :lol::patsch.
    Knob :verysad
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You say same goes for Ward meaning if he beats froch he could go down as the greatest SMW of all time :lol::patsch.
    so you think Ward beating Kessler who was unwell,
    Green who was beaten by Miranda and KOd by old Johnson in his next fight.
    Bika who was beaten clearer by Bute.
    Abraham coming off of 2 clear S6 defeats
    Froch beaten by Kessler would make Ward the greatest SMW of all time :lol::lol::lol:.

    It not even close dummy, not even close to Eubank or Ottke.

    So Calzaghe who beat Kessler when undefeated
    Bika before Ward and clearer, and has several names greater than Green and Abraham.
    Not to forget owning wins over Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell, Brewer, Lacy plus many other top 10 SMWs would be rated lower. Shut up.

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    Now as said, I rate Froch completely but consider this

    2 time WBA SMW champ
    Froch won his vacant title over Pascal who did little at SMW and wasnt even a top 10 SMW
    Scored a good away win over Taylor who was 1-2-0 in his last 3 fights
    Beat Dirrell who hasnt done anything at SMW
    lost to Kessler away who was coming off a loss
    beat Abraham coming off a loss
    beat Johnson who has a terrible SMW resume


    Now look at B Mitchell
    2 time WBA SMW champ
    He beat #1 Liles (something Ward is praised for doing) by KO, who is possibly a better more accomplished SMW than anyone on Frochs win resume
    drew with future 2 weight champ Girard who was a more accomplished SMW than Abraham
    Lost to Girard away
    beat Siaca twice who went on to become WBA SMW champ who beat Mundine and is a more accomplished SMW than Johnson if not a more accomplished fighter
    beat former MW champ JC Green who beat a prime Joppy before Joppy was beaten by Trinidad or Hopkins.

    Mitchell only lost by SD to Ottke in a fight many felt he won and was only ever beaten clearly once as a SMW, by Calzaghe.

    Saying Mitchell could possibly be Americas best SMW of the decade might not be far wrong.

    Now I know thats unfair and I rate Froch well above Mitchell, probably due to bias, because when you look at resumes you tell me how far apart are they :think
     
  5. krishv123

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    hes the WHite Marvin Hagler....

    Does it the hard way on the road , fights the best....Ward vs Froch

    is Sugar Ray vs Marvin of this generation..


    you have the golden boy in Ward (with the TV company behind him) against the man who has had to do it the hardest way possible...


    common FROCHY!!!
     
  6. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch makes his fights difficult for himself because he wants to have a fan pleasing style. He could always just keep his hands up, use his height, and his jab, and his fights would all have been dominating Abraham type performances.

    He is a capable boxer, but he prefers to slug because it's more fan friendly.

    In the end he should keep doing what hes doing, entertain the fans when he can afford to do so, and slug when he's fighting the sort of fighter he can afford to slug with.

    Against Ward he will have to box well but also slug at times. This is going to be his toughest fight but it also will be Ward's toughest fight and it will be career defining for both. I expect them to fight more than once in their career also.
     
  7. Lunny

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    I think his technical boxing ability is underrated quite often. The man is a very capable boxer when he fights that way.
     
  8. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    i love Froch he has style built for speed but hes not fast!! and it works. has good jab and decent power seems able to walk through certain fighters shots as well. hel be missed when hes gone.

    if calzaghe had Frochs drive and ambition hed be an actual atg
     
  9. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward will break his effing beak.

    Guaranteed !
     
  10. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch actually has a very stiff fast long Wlad like jab. Wlad isn't very fast either but you see how difficult it is for fighters to deal with a jab, especially untelegraphed.


    The reason it's difficult to deal with the jab is because you can't time the jab easily, it's also the quickest punch so even a jab from a slow hand fighter is going to be a fast punch, and if they have long arms and a good chin behind that jab it's a challenge to get inside.

    Ward is going to have great difficulty getting past Froch's jab if Froch uses it correctly. Wlad will want to keep the fight at close range because he can't win a jabbing contest with Froch.
     
  11. Kid Presentable

    Kid Presentable Facial Blocking Full Member

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    i take it you mean ward! i like froch but wlad would jab him to death. interesting fight.

    Ward gets stick on here mostly by british calzaghe fans for some reason. but hes a good fighter adept at closing the distance and throwing combos to head and body,

    hes a rough and ready ******* as well this could be a war
     
  12. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I'm saying Froch's jab is as good as Wlad's. I'm not saying Froch would fight Wlad. I'm saying Froch should use the Wlad Jab against Ward.
     
  13. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Umm First off bailey I don't know who u calling dummy.. You have lost your ****en mind.. all points aside Your thread started off like you had some sense.. but its clear you don't.. Your boy has a nice Resume.. Great.. he deserves everything he has fought for.. But ole boy who called you on your boxrec bias is Spot on.. You sound like a ****en ****** Pulling Brian Mitchell into this discussion and all your little connections of who beat who better.. There is more to boxing than knowing about who beat who better.. Real fans of the sweat science know that.. There is no use to even speaking to you about boxing... everything is a who beat who fest with you..


    Haggler was a killer unlike Froch who hasent killed anyone. Froch has made his way int he fight game but being apart of the Super 6 has allowed TV to get behind him too.. We wouldn't like Froch if we didn't see that big bird beak on TV talking Crazy all the time or hanging out with his hot wife.. TV exposure has help Froch as well.. he is not a fighter who says going to Training camp is like Going to Jail.. He doesn't have the Hunger that Haggler had.. bad comparison.. NEXT...!:rasta
     
  14. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch gets sweated cause he is white.
    I hate stuff like that he is a cool fighter just nothing that great.
    You have to respect his attitude and integrity to the sport but skill
    wise he is a very solid B level boxer.
     
  15. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Froch and mostly I'd say he's at least competitive in the grand scheme of SMWs, which is a pretty shallow, new division, relatively.