All I'm saying is, a resume is like a plated certificate on some managers wall in his office.... It don't mean **** to me until I see him operate.... I've known lotsa' bookworms who can't turn a screwdriver in the field, but they are certified smart and are managing workers, etc.... I despise bureaucracy and wind-bags..... In the field, I'll take a top-notch mechanic over a bullshitter any day at work..... MR.BILLbbb
"It don't mean **** to me until I see him operate" When will you ever see Sullivan operate? I am going by historical rating only. Sullivan must have been good in his day or he wouldn't have dominated the heavyweight division for ten years. That is what I go by.
I really feel for Liston, most underrated HW of all time IMO. True, Ali made him look like a bum...But Come on, Ali was as fast as a MW. Just the wrong fight for Liston. IMO Liston would have beaten everyone apart from Ali and Louis. FACT: Ali would make most of the greats look like bums.
Welcome Edward : You post that History teaches that Dempsey is rated "so low,is because he did not meet the best fighters [plural] of his time ". Not factual- Aside from Harry Wills,[though they did sign for a bout],Dempsey fought about everyone feasible in his reign. Langfoird, McVey,were old in the tooth,mid to late thirties, and Harry Greb was a middleweight [though the greatest fighter of his times].And fighting Greb was a no-win situation for the Mauler. So E,Dempsey as TOUGH a fighter in history, followed his braintrust Jack Kearns and Tex Rickard ,who brought riches for Dempsey. So truly it was Harry Wills alone,that Dempsey did not hook-up with 1918-23. Events later proved that Wills,most likely would have lost to Dempsey as Jack Sharkey and Paolino Uzcudun,beat the avoided Harry Wills...