Ortiz May Have A Short Run In The Spotlight - Make It Official...

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Your official opinion now before history gets rewritten by the lemmings Sunday morning. The Maidana Debacle: Did Victor Ortiz fully redeem himself with the manner of victory and result of his championship winning effort against Andre Berto?

    (There's a good chance nobody is going to give a **** this time next week.)
     
  2. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hop Victor comes to fight and doesnt quit when Floyd takes him in deep water. I hope after the fight he gets back in the gym and focuses on getting his belt back
     
  3. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He redeemed himself with the Berto performance obviously, fought through adversity to get the W. However it proved little as to what level he is actually on, given Berto's questionable reputation as a proven top level fighter and the wild nature of the fight. I would've liked to have seen him take a couple more fights against good welters before facing someone on Mayweather's level. Unfortunately Mayweather jumped right on the hype knowing Ortiz's style does not bode well for a long reign at the top level, and Ortiz couldn't pass it up.
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    He redeemed himself in terms of showing he has the heart to fight through some real adversity in the ring.

    In terms of how good a fighter he'll turn out to be and how long he can operate on a relatively high level has yet to be seen.
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    So far I'm thinking I've created the most confusing thread in recent memory. I am high as a kite right now.. :lol:
     
  6. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    He redeemed his quitting against Maidana. HOWEVER, beating Berto didn't propel him into the "Holy crap Victor is back and better than ever" in MY OWN OPINION because I wasn't sold on Berto and he let the fight against Peterson get away enough to draw despite knockdowns.
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    The draw was not a draw though. Ortiz won. But yeah.
     
  8. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, I don't think Victor propelled himself into the ranks of the elite with the Berto victory since many felt that Berto himself hadn't proven himself to be an elite fighter either.

    But for sure, he redeemed what he lost when he quit against Maidana. Not only because he got back up from being dropped.. even the way he looked was different, he really did look like a man possessed against Berto. A far cry from the bewildered, "wtf is this guy doing to me" look he had against Maidana.
     
  9. RealityCheck

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    He showed he had heart, but considering how prone he was to trading punches with total disregard shows that he still has limited skill. Not enough to be effective against Mayweather, at least. It will be much like the Hatton fight. Maybe a couple good first rounds, but he will get figured out and broken down and possible stopped much like Hatton did; walking into a big punch.
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    dont matter really. he will most likely lose against floyd, anyway
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    That's ****ed up. :lol:
     
  12. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    He did redeem himself, for sure.

    However, the fact that he did quit, will never go away. There's always a chance that could happen again. I mean, Amir Khan taking bombs from Maidana doesn't dispel the fact that he still has a weak chin, and can be blown away again by the next big puncher he faces. With Ortiz, his brave showing against Berto and the likely enthusiastic effort he'll put up against Floyd, may be just a brief thing before he goes back to the old Ortiz. Who knows. His story is still being written. I can't comment properly until all is said and done.
     
  13. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    nah ortiz is going to get destroyed.
     
  14. bobotnaman

    bobotnaman ★★★★☆ Full Member

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    he's still young and too early for floyd.