My classic opinion on Mayweather vs Ortiz

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I am in the middle of watching part 3 of the 24/7 series of Mayweather vs Ortiz, and frankly my view of the fight has changed dramatically. Originally I was pulling for Floyd to retain his unbeaten status, but now I am cheering for Ortiz. Victor is not only an incredible athlete and talented young fighter, but he's also a seemingly intelligent and classy gentleman. It's making me absolutely sick to see Floyd perform such acts on film as burning hundred dollar bills and publicly calling his own father a "mother ****er" in front of the whole world.. Floyd's personal battles and family issues are his business and I am not telling him what to think, but the rest of us don't need to see it. He has always been full of himself, but his arrogance has grown ten fold even since the Hatton fight of a few years ago. Regardless of his boundless talent and incredible boxing ability, he is still everything that is wrong with boxing and a far cry from resembling any sort of role model.. Come fight time, I am going to be behind Victor Ortiz 100% of the way, and even if Victor loses I will still sleep better at night knowing that I supported the "right' man......

    Have a good evening....
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    24/7 is designed to do this to you. You're playing into its hands well, mate. :good
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Noni is P4P material. Just sayin'.
     
  4. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's right Magoo.

    Casual fans don't really know Victor Ortiz, but they do know Floyd Mayweather. Given that Floyd is a proven commodity selling Ortiz's personality makes sense. He's taken the role of the good guy and Floyd is once again the villian and it keeps fans interested enough that they ignore what could easily be a technical mismatch.

    Ortiz is a good fighter and could make it interesting but I expect Floyd to beat him.
     
  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This may be Mayweather-Gatti II.

    Ortiz has one thing going for him -I think he's likely to go right at Floyd and fight him right. And if power like his catches any superior technician, well, Victor ain't gonna lay off like Meek Mosley.

    I agree with Magoo that Floyd represents Jerry Springer's America, and you don't call your father a mutha ****a in front of millions (and that wasn't an act, people unless Floyd is Meryl Streep in disguise), but he deserves alot of credit for taking this kid on. This kid is strong, relaxed, resilient, and he's fighting for redemption.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yea I wish 24/7 showed extensive sparring, I'd like to see what mile times each fighter is managing with their road work, a breakdown of what Ortiz managed his triathlon in (I don't think it was a good time looking at it but maybe he hasn't got the swimming technique).

    Instead we have a series trying to sell a Rocky movie, well it worked on the OP :D
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Man, do you have any idea how boring that would be for everyone who doesn't post on this board?
     
  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does anyone think Mayweather doesn't work half as hard as he makes out? I mean he never looks like he's pushing himself to the limits of his stamina. All that 'hard work pays the bills' - he didn't look like he was pushing himself that hard. When he's sparring he looks to fight at his own pace from the little of it I've seen. He doesn't look like he runs that fast in his roadwork either. He says he trains harder now than when he was younger too

    Looking at his heavy bag work I also don't think he has great powerpunching technique is great, that's why he has bad hands and isn't a big puncher imo

    As for his fitness, against the highest workrate he's faced in Hatton he took breaks throughout the round.

    Still a great boxer and great skillset
     
  9. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Im surprised so many are buying into the b.s. around this fight. Ortiz is tailor made for Mayweather. Any guy who gets beaten by someone as slow as Maidana and draws with Peterson is not beating Mayweather. I think Mayweather is vastly overrated, and cherry picks his competition but what he does he does well and Ortiz will play right into this.
     
  10. carlosg815

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    I am cheering for Victor as well.

    I am predicting a 7-10 round stoppage for Floyd Mayweather. I give Ortiz a punchers chance and that is all. And with a guy as solid and durable as Mayweather, it's going to take a lot of those.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343173
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Ortiz is a likable guy and seems to be in terrific shape but unless Floyd has gotten old over night I see a welter weight version of Holmes - Bey ... Floyd is not just physically better but so much mentally stronger ... Ortiz seems to me as if he's on the verge of crying each episode ... the way his skin swells up , I just don't see it ...
     
  13. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    i agree that ortiz is tailor made for mayweather but i don't agree that floyd cherry picks his opponents. hopefully he will fight manny in may and all this ducking nonsense about floyd will stop. btw, i can't stand floyd.
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Agree completely. 10-2/9-3.
     
  15. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great Post:good:good:good