Who was the most complete out of the Fab Four?

they look old both of them!!! banged up!!! They look like two old boxers who are friends ready to go hang out at a bar and drink They must have a lot of time for hanging out with each other now since both of them don't have boxing anymore. lol They wish they were Floyd Mayweather and could earn money in the ring now. And both of these guys blew all the money. If you earn millions you should have some money later!!!! No insult on them but they should not have blown all that money. Great fighters but not great with money!!! Even the money they earned against each other when they fought in 1984 should have been enough to give them a good retirement.

 

Another of your deluded in denial fanboy reposte's:yep

Here's yer evidence:yep

Leonard disgracefully ducked Hagler in 82 especially after he said that was the fight that he wanted & the world demanded. Leonard was protecting the SRL $$$$ brand as he knew defeat at the hands of Hagler was the end for him. He would'nt re-match either Hearns which was what the whole boxing world demanded or Benitez back then. In 83 he said if Duarn beats hagler he's def coming back!!! Hagler wipes out Hearns & SRL is heard burrowing 4 miles underground & still digging:yep

1984 when Leonard fought Howard that showed to anyone & everyone that leonard was finished as a top echelon fighter & he knew that also, hence another drama -queen retirement speech. He spent the next years haunting ringside at any top fight still attempting to deflect & steal the limelight from the protaganists of the night.

He waited for Hagler to grind to a near on halt & then only fought a faded hearns again at a catchweight of his choosing & did the same too Duran in 89 when again the private contract conditions were that duran had to drain down to 160 & every ounce above would mean a $1million fine. Least we forget the LaLonde 2 title's fiasco where again Leonard had Lalonde tied to a private catchweight agreement & had him boil down to zero. Anyone with 1/2 a brain knew what SRL was all about & thats why he cherry picked or more so allowed to cherrypic his moments as he was the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ & SRL knew it along with the rest of us.

Duran in 89 had his visa revoked due to another multi-million IRS bill he's neglected to pay & could'nt leave the U.S. so he gratefully agreed to all SRL conditions. SRL could'nt cut it anymore at the top level after 82 & thats why he never fought a live opponant & when he did he got thrashed by Terry Norris & such was his jealousy of Duran who was still getting good press ink up to & after he was robbed in the 1st camacho fight challenged feather fisted hector & the ego maniacs egomaniac got what he well & truly deserved

In 84 Leonard used the Howard fight as a tune up to get his old 147 title's back & after that gift stoppage he knew along with everyone else that Don Curry would have iced him:deal Leonard never fought anyone after 1982 who could be considered at the top of their game except Norris & we all know what happended there.

Must have been sweet for Hector as he'd called leonard out in the early 80's at ringside after SRL criticised Camacho when he was doing commentary for HBO & camacho vowed to beat the **** out of Leonard, who'd have believed a super/feather would get the chance to do that

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poor Hearns and Duran spent all their money and now they go to England to go on tour to sign autographs!! I feel sorry for these guys and then on top of it all they look tired!! All the while Leonard looks great and that is why he was the most complete fab 4 guy.

 

I don't know whether to laugh at or admire your nerve in claiming somebody else to be a fanboy.


I bet you spent all morning working on that rambling,long-winded diatribe,didn't you,you lumpy,red-faced cretin? The furious pounding your keyboard took from your stumpy fingers is most likely the most exercise you've partaken in for quite a while.




And LOL @ Duran having to drain himself down to 160.The middleweight division? The one in which Duran had just one a title at in his previous fight? Where he had weighed in two pounds lower than his weight for the third Leonard fight? :rofl



Go take a lie down,you soppy,wretched old ****.

 

That's a very misleading picture.

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There wasn't a big height difference between Hagler and Duran though, but you could see who was the bigger man by looking at their physiques.

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Sugar Ray Leonard IMO

He could box from the outside, fight on the inside, could throw every punch in the book, great speed, good power, excellent footwork, good defense, very versatile, could throw superb combnations, was a fantastic finisher & was also a great athlete... thats as complete a package as you can get to be honest.

 

Well that pathetic immature reposte just confirms that you are just a total wanker pal.

Now there's no need to get personal is there just because i expose you for the know ****-all creep that you are. You're just a sheep, i've never seen you give a constructive opinion based on anything other than plagarism. If you can't handle the fact that you a so far out of your depth on here due to yer compleat & total lack of boxing knowlege albeit through research or expeareance then you should **** off back to the general where the rest of you schoolboy premeture ejaculalors reside, you've no place here, you're a compleat & utter fraud:deal

It ai'nt your fault that you're too thick to know you're thick! If weight was'nt an issue for the 3rd fight then why did Leonard insist on private weight stipulations & financial penelties outside the contracted catchweight for Leonards title. I don't expect a coheriant reply as it's plainly obvious you hav'nt a clue as to what i'am talking about as you were obviously still in nappies when this fight went down.

As i said you should'nt be on here as you know ****-all & contribute even less as you've no basis too even get involved on a subject that you obviously no nothing about & the fact that you can only retort to childish abuse when challenged & confronted by superior arguement & proof justifies the opinion that you are just a chancer who's desperate for a bit of respect amounst his peers & the only way you'll achieve that on here is if you man up & admit that you know absolutly nothing on the subject of Duran or even Leonard. Whats yer knowlege based on anyway? Please enlighten us all!!!.

I suppose being with the media & attending all the closed door pressers at the Leonard/Duran III don't qualify me too give opinion based on expereance of the event & times. So whats you excuse????

Just to give the above a bit of provenance. press badge & ring side ticket.

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For the record: I've got to go with Sugar Ray Leonard, in the generic sense, he had all the good & all the bad aspects, yin & yang, physical & mental, it's got to be Leonard for me. He's yer battlefield commander, Hearns is yer sniper, Hagler is yer Marine/Para & Duran is yer torturer in chief.

 

You're just deliberately trolling at this point.There is no way that someone of your history could criticize me for being "immature",and there's no possible way you could refer to me as being "thick" despite such glaring spelling errors in your own post,without pissing themselves laughing while they're typing.



I am a wanker,but I generally only act like one to posters who are themselves wankers.I mean,here you are,playing the victim,and acting shocked because I slung some sh^t in your direction - you've pretty much made a name on this site doing the exact same thing.Grow a pair,lad.




Leonard and Duran had a verbal agreement on the weight,that much both you and I know.I don't have a clue why Leonard would want a catchweight at a weight in which Duran had just fought at,and neither do you.But only a f^cking moron would think that it was somehow him(Leonard) attempting to gain an unfair advantage.This is a totally different case to Lalonde and Hearns,where his motives were clear and made sense.





I'd advise yer to jog on,but you're most likely incapable of that.The first ten yards you'd be able to manage,but anything past twenty five is probably asking too much.

 

marvelous biatch

 

There' only one troll here & thats the big YOU!!!

THICK ****!!! :rofl....Duran/Leonard III was for Leonards Super/Middleweight crown at 168 & Contracted weight was 163 & private agreement was that if Duran came in over 160 then he got $$$ hammered hence he starved himself to 158 to be on the safe side of the $$$$ & by losing the fight he got shafted by the WBC who stole his middleweight title stating that seeing leonard weighed in at 160 & Duran at 158 then Duran gets stripped & this was meant to be for Leonards Super/middle weight crown..........You useless *****:rofl

At the weigh-in Arum caused uproar when he held his hands out & said "I presume it's for both title's now" with a robbing smirk!! Duran's camp went nuts, his title was'nt on the line or so he thought!!! Nice bit of manipulation again from Arum/Leonard. If you had a shred of self respect you'd shut yer big mouth as again you've clearly made yer self look a bigger **** as i gave you credit for.....wanker

 

I said it.

Look, as my good friend Paul Ryan says, "let's have an honest debate"

Leonard didnt have what it took to have a long career like Hagler or Duran. He wasnt tough like Hagler N Duran

He couldnt take it upstairs as well as Hagler N Duran. that's why he ran as much as he did

the reason he cut short his career to avoid the primes of Hagler N Hearns & oddles of other speedy hard hitting top notch fighters; the Nunn's, the Curry's the Honeyghan's, the Pryor's

the notorious pain staking process of finding "just the right opponent" in Lalonde, 1989 rematches with remedial fighters ,,, just pathetic

his one sided little encounter w Norris, the first fighter he ever faced with great hand speed

He couldnt take it, it's that simple. If he could, we wouldve had Hagler-srl '83, Pryor, all the way up to Nunn - srl 1989

No hate here, just the truth

 

The contracted weight was 162,actually,tubby.And unless you can provide a credible source of this private agreement that Duran be allowed to weigh no more than 160,I suggest you shut your fat,sweaty,pie munching ugly mug.While you're at it,also explain to me as to why your idol would have to starve himself down to a weight which was two pounds above his previous weight,in a fight in which he had four months to prepare for.

 

Jeezus, no wonder lately that some of the older posters who've been around a bit are no longer coming onto the classic when ignorant thick farts like you are here :-( The more i read your catty & bitchy repostes i'am more than certain i'am replying to someone of a feminine disposition whose sorely lacking in confidence & low on self esteem.

Duran was a BLIMP when the fight was signed you moron & go ask SRL why he insisted on the 160 & seeing you are such a thicko, why would Duran not come in at 160 unless he was **** scared of not hitting it & losing millions you uselss dumb ****. So he starved himself down to be on the safe side of the $$$$$. I witnessed it with my own eyes & it was all over the press at the time & common knowlege that this is what SRL did. Now why don't you **** off back to the general forum, Your a troll.

 

Bang on the money as per usual rooster:yep

My opinion factored in his snake like qualities, but from a fistic perspective what you say above should be set in stone:deal

The writing was already on the wall after the Larry Bonds fight that Leonards days were numbered & no doubt Dundee knew it too & the Howard debacle wiped out all doubt that Leonard was done as a top echelon fighter & leonard could'nt flee the scene of the crime fast enough & thats the only speed leonard brought from 82 & that was get as far away from re-matching Hearns/Benitez & fighting Hagler & before the Howard fiasco he stated that 1st he was coming back to get his old title's back from Curry & McCrory. No chance & he knew it:deal