Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Victor Ortiz & undercard RBR

As soon as Ortiz butted Mayweather and then continued trying to punch him whilst he was recoiling from the butt ethics went out the window.

If you employ dirty tactics you've got to be prepared for your opponent to do the same, Mayweather played Ortiz at his own game but operated within the rules and with more conviction.

 

well, chalk it up to ortiz being green i guess. i still think it was total bull**** and no fighter would have ever expected that. knowing floyd, though, ortiz should have. oh well. :-(

 

For me, it was a legit KO. Cortez had already said to fight. Floyd had the right to puch. It was just ortiz being a BIG idiot. Cortez wasnt even looking when n first left shot was fired by floyd.

 

It's really more like bias against Ortiz, a dirty fighter who hides behind a Hollywood smile and a "love and pity me, please" backstory (which may have been contrived) - and against the large number of people who pumped him up to be more than what he is for what? Beating Berto? The king of all hype jobs?

I'm not a huge Mayweather fan, but watching him ply his trade always leaves me a bit mystified and awed. Hell, he isn't even that good by his standards these days. His legs are almost gone. (Cory Spinks & Ivan Calderon Syndrome). How many times did Ortiz manage to shove him into the ropes and tee off on his guard, without leaving him any room to get free? The old Mayweather would have never been trapped like that. Unlike Spinks and Calderon, though - but like Chris John - he is still able to be effective without using his legs to navigate all over the ring.

He outfought Ortiz on the inside. The "Big strong hungry young lion" was the recipient of the harder and more damaging blows, and the more effective body shots.

So much **** was talked before this bout. So many people sold themselves on the notion of Ortiz being a real threat and tried to conscript everyone else into the cult.

It's so satisfying to see **** like that blow up in people's faces.

Fourth round knockout!!

I believe people put their avatars and reputations on the line that Mayweather stopping Ortiz was utterly impossible.

Regardless of the circumstances, he did it. He did it with a pair of brutal power punches that Ortiz could not recover from and beat the count after - and they were delivered during the round "in play".

 

you headbutt someone, you lose a point. that's how you're reprimanded for that.

dirty tactics back and forth are all well and good. used every fight to an extent. but when they're severe enough to end the fight, that is and always will be bull****.

 

a pair of brutal punches that were delivered when the opponent wasn't even paying attention or prepared. it was a ***** move dude regardless of whether or not time was in. there was absolutely no honor in that and as a fighter, floyd should be ashamed regardless of what the rules are. it's the principle of the matter.

obviously your biased against ortiz. you really think his back story is made up? is that why he's a dirty ***** eddie haskel mother****er? butting mayweather was dirty, but what has he done that was dirty before tonight? i certainly don't recognize him as a dirty fighter.

 

Clearly a legal win for Mayweather. A ***** move, but legal non the less.

 

Fight was on. Cortez called fight on, waved his hands in, and called time in. Ortiz should have put his hands up. Floyd knocked out Ortiz. It may not have been the classiest victory, but it wasn't dirty.

 

Josesito Lopez - Jessie Vargas. I was not impressed with either fighter, but thought Lopez deserved the victory, or no worse than a draw. But they gave it to Vargas, who showed me no power, lots of touches, lots of movement and clinching.

Morales showed his veteran experience to do what he had to in order to box more effectively and land the sharper, more effective punches. Cano was game and live in there though. They traded off playing aggressor and counterpuncher, but Morales was a tad better at both. Stopped after 10th due to severe cut on Cano and puffy blackened eyes.

Alvarez looked like a Mexican Floyd Mayweather in there with rolling ducking defense, relaxed style, some footwork, and quick sharp punches. Stoppage was just a hair fast, but end result was not going to change. Fight was somewhat competitive because Alvarez only threw in spurts and Gomez was more consistent with the output, but he really could not land solidly and you could almost feel that Alvarez was playing around and toying with him, awaiting his moment to sharpshoot him with something significant. He had the much faster hands. He finally blasted Gomez in the 6th round with a right and right uppercut and Gomez was stunned, and Alvarez got him to the ropes and bombed away with several punches until the ref stopped it. Perhaps ever so slight fast stoppage, but overall no criticism.

Mayweather-Ortiz. 1st round to Mayweather, but it was a close and cautious round by both. May's fast right hand won it for him. 2nd round I had even but my wife gave it to Ortiz. Tactical bout. 3rd round was a clear Mayweather round. Just so darn fast with his hands, lightning reflexes, and beautiful defense. So darn hard to hit him clean. May knows how to land cleanly with those quick sharpshooting single shots that are so damn fast I am amazed that Ortiz eludes any of them. 4th round May was again doing his thing, though Ortiz had his pockets of aggressiveness. Yet, for all his firepower, if you watch close, Ortiz really could not land cleanly and was missing the majority of his shots. I think the kid deep in his heart sensed that Floyd was comfortable and not phased by anything he did, particularly when Floyd smiled at him. The frustration quickly mounted, and the kid who has once before been disqualified, while inside intentionally and flagrantly headbutted May in the mouth. Ref Cortez called time and took a point off. I was in a bar watching it for free, so I could not tell exactly what was being said. But it appeared to me that Cortez blew it. Instead of getting between the fighters and calling time in, or asking Floyd if he was ready to continue, Cortez stepped back and looked away from the fighters, and looked over at a corner and was talking. Completely oblivious to the two men in the ring, Floyd and Ortiz approach one another with Cortez in the background, failing to place himself between them. Ortiz reaches out and hugs May and apologizes. While Cortez is looking at the corner and talking, not paying any attention to the fighters, Ortiz backs away slightly with his hands down. May then nails him with a big hook. Ortiz instead of defending himself looks over at the ref, who isn't even paying attention, and then May landed a big right and knocked him out. Cortez had never called time in. Cortez then proceeds to count Ortiz out.

Bottom line is this was all messed up, but in the end I think the right guy won. May was better. Ortiz's flagrant head butt was horrid. He then got what was coming to him, and the cardinal rule in boxing is protect yourself at all times. But as a technical legal matter, without time-in being called, Mayweather fouled Oritz. But you can't entirely blame May for doing it after what Ortiz did to him, and because given that Cortez did not say stop or step between them, and allowed them to approach one another, it is understandable that May thought it was game on. Cortez utterly lost control of the bout and sight of the boxers. At least May won with his fists and not with his head, as Ortiz tried to do.

 

Legal? It's posts like these that make me wanna vomit If that's legal for your sorry ass, I wonder what's illegal...well what can I expect from a Floydiot like you

 

wtf:-(

 

If Ortiz had done that to Mayweather this forum would go into meltdown.

 

wow, what a great, great....... payday for Ortiz

 

Too true.

 

Somewhere Corey Alarcon is smiling.