The Fight Was Fixed

Nothing seemed "weird". atsch FFS.

Why was Ortiz smiling sheepishly?

HIS ENTIRE ****ING IMAGE IS BUILT ON BEING THE NICE KID FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS! What the **** is he going to do, throw a tantrum? Swear on PPV with the world watching? Pull a ****ing Khoren Gevor and punch out Joe Cortez??

GET REAL.

Of course he's going to shrug it off and act like it's no big deal to preserve his image. Ortiz may not be up to snuff as an elite welterweight (or even light welterweight, really) and may be dirty, phony, selfish, and many other unpleasant things - but he is NOT dumb. He's a very shrewd kid. He did what made sense. He put on his happy face and gave a "dawwwww, what a sweetie - he ain't even mad when he easily could be!" interview.

You're ****ing ******ED if you don't get his "motive" in doing so.

He's trying to keep himself bankable, simple as that.

 

The rematch angle is a bit weak.

I don't think anyone would pay to watch that **** again.



However, Floyd would rematch Ortiz....Judah..even Baldomir, to avoid facing Pac.

 

I was very surprised he couldn't get up.

 

I don't buy Pete's lengthy and verbose contention that the fight was fixed.


However, I have considerable suspicion that Vicious Victor just upped and quit.

 

Why so serious about seriousness, you melodramatic goomba? ****ing hell, Pete. I'm a serious poster, 25% of the time. That's who I am. So what? I make serious posts every day. If you don't catch them, it's not my fault. If one didn't land on your thread, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry, I don't put any stock in a fixing, so you got sarcasm. I think what happened just happened. I've been watching boxing a lot of years, and sometimes there's a fix in when unusual things happen, of course, but most of the time unsatisfying and ****ed up things will happen all on their own.

In this one, we've got a guy who has a demonstrable history of taking advantage of these opportunities, a flaky, unstable fighter on the other end, and on top of all that, why the **** would you "fix" it to play out like that? There doesn't have to be any conspiratorial explanation. And if there's a rematch, I'll kiss your ass. This was not Castillo I. It ain't happening. Mayweather will move on. By the way, I meant that I'd figuratively kiss your ass. Figuratively, like the way Ortiz is a tree. Literally. :blood

 

Garcia has outright admitted on 24/7 that he's just using this whole circus to put food on his family's table. Ortiz isn't anyone special to him, just a meal ticket. That's why he was willing to damage his relationship with his family - not because he'd formed a special bond with a special young fighter, but because he was only getting pittance as a background 'helping hand' in the family trade and he saw in Ortiz a chance to coat-tail his way to big-time PPV money. And he did.

Don't be surprised if they split very soon.

 

Fair enough, but I disagree on one thing. After tonight, I'm fairly convinced that Ortiz is in fact a dumbass. He can't headbutt without being seen from a mile away, try to make up for it like 5 too much times and then get knocked out while looking at the ref like he was gonna do something.

You seem like a decent poster but I don't buy your "Ortiz is a shrewd kid who knew what he was doing" theory.

 

He's shrewd outside the ring. A good liar (well, not a great one but enough to fool dumb/gullible people and get everyone to like and sympathize with him).

His boxing IQ is low.

 

It was slightly sooner...than this:

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But, really, we're going to have to agree to disagree, my old frenemy.