Bob Arum: Manny thinks Money May would be an easy fight

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  1. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    Please stop with your stupidity. The point is Pac trains in the Philippines DESPITE Roach's feelings and he will continue to do so DESPITE what Floyd will have to say about it. If floyd feels that Pac's training in his country is a roadblock to the fight, then Floyd really means to duck Pacquaio and will use any excuse to avoid him.

    Pac has already agreed to do the test. That is the only issue that's been holding the fight. Floyd had heard it so he should negotiate. Prattling around saying Pac should take the test when Pac has already accepted it only makes Floyd more suspect. If Floyd feels that Arum is lying, then negotiate with them and expose them for the liars that they are. But avoiding the issue and shitting on Larry Merchant to keep him from asking the Pacquiao question proves Arum's point-Floyd is a coward who will not risk his 0 to fight Pacquiao.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    floyd just used 8oz against marquez so no concession there. weight was weltwerweight and he is the naturally bigger man so no concession there. ring entrance, pac conceded and pac will come out first. purse split, pac-cotto earned 1.25M PPV buys while floyd-jmm earned 1.05M PPV buys. pac conceded 50-50 here. venue, arum wants to check cowboy's stadium but floyd's team won't fight outside of Vegas so it was pac's team who conceded here by accepting vegas. additional test, pac's team conceded and agreed up to 24 days cut-off on blood test and no limit on urine test which is more than the usual test that is conducted by NSAC .
     
  3. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Arum says the word once and you repeat it immediately, you really are a top notch *******:rofl:rofl
     
  4. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the irony mr 42-0 :lol:
     
  5. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    Does that dismiss my point?

    and Floyd Sr. complained about Pac's training in the Philippines once and all of you are now singing the same tune *****s
     
  6. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Bob Arum talks **** about Floyd Mayweather. What a shocking development. I sincerely doubt Manny ever said Floyd would be an easy fight. If he did say it, he's wrong. And if he really believes it, he'll lose. But when has Pacquiao ever called any potential opponent an easy fight?

    This just reeks of bull****.
     
  7. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    This has too much common sense. What's hard to understand here for the *****s?
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    easy fight for manny
    easy fight for floyd
    50 million for both potentially
    but somehow it cant be made
     
  9. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arum uses words cleverly and deceptively. "Then we agreed to 'unlimited' testing" [with a cutoff of 14 days before the fight--an important detail conveniently overlooked]. On a conference call following that bull**** countdown clock for Floyd..."We agreed to ALL of Floyd's demands", reporter (who is educated on the issue) asks, "What did you agree to?", Arum replies, "I can't give details." :think

    The guy is a liar (at least on this issue). I'm convinced he does not want to put Manny in there with Floyd...yet or ever. His star trainer (Roach) has admitted to not even being able to formulate a proper gameplan to give Manny to face Floyd. He was saying this in 2009. In 2011, he was hoping Ortiz would provide some type of blueprint. :blood

    I've seen nothing from Manny that tells me "this would not be a difficult fight" for him. In fact, he will need a perfect performance to even win a close victory, IMO. Or he will need a lucky punch. I don't think Manny knows styles as much as Arum claims, if he really believes "this would not be a difficult fight."
     
  10. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Whoa whoa wat,


    Venue- Pac gave this up it was originally supposed to be texas but Floyd wanted MGM

    Gloves- Only nevada has 10oz for 140+, everywhere else has 10oz for 154+ (hint texas), but ill give it

    Weight was intended to be 147- they asked 154 so that team pac wouldn't bull**** them with a catchweight.

    Ring entrances- Floyd was going to enter last, and his name billed first, like the champion.

    Purse split- debateable subject but Ill spare the debate and just give it

    Ring size- 20x20 is the standard ring size.

    Overweight clause- only because Floyd had a history of it

    so its wasn't too much out of the ordinary
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you have to understand that *****s would throw all of that when it comes to their boy floyd.

    take the test! - parrots
     
  12. SweetHome_Bama

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    What Floyd did against Marquez has no bearing on Manny, different event and negotiations, so yes he did concede the glove size.

    WW was the weight limit, but I believe Manny had a crazy 1 million dollar per pound over weight stipulation, Floyd agreed, so another concession.

    Floyd conceded the purse split, fact is Floyd is the higher earner if you look at hom much they make per fight, but Floyd could have argued about getting a higer percentage took the 50/50 split, concession.

    Cowboy Stadium was on the table, but Vegas paid more money, that is a venue/monetary choice, not a concession for either fighter but the best deal.

    How can you concede to a 24 day cut off when that was never on the table?

    Again you either don't know the definition of the word or you are just a typical brain dead *******. Floyd off the bat demanded OSDT, PAC said no, said **** about being afraid of needles or blood making him weak and other ****. As for who made the concession, I believe Floyd said he would give him the 14 day cut off in the first negotiations, when it feel through Floyd took it off the table.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    why would an 8oz glove be a concession when he used it for the marquez fight as a tune-up fight for an upcoming pac fight. he also used 8oz gloves against mosley and ortiz.

    if anything, pacquiao shuld have demanded a catchweigth since he is not yet proven at the full WW limit then. so him fighting floyd at 147 si more of a pacquiao concession with floyd being the naturally bigger man.

    how did you know that vegas paid more money when floyd's team instantly ignore the dallas offer? floyd doesn't want to fight outside his hometown so pac did conceed the venue and along with it is the the vegas standard ring size of 20x20.

    pacquiao also conceded the ring entrance and the title billing which you first mentioned was conceded by floyd.

    pacquaio conceded since they agreed to be tested much more than the actual testing that is carried by NSAC. they are willing to be tested up to 24 days and immediately afte rthe fight with blood but no limit in urine test.

    so now youa re basically agreeing in what i first wrote taht while pac has been conceeding more after the first negotiations, it was floyd and his team moving the goal post by adidng new demands and moving the goal not to mentions floyd's frequent vacations.
     
  14. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    U can't be serious about this. 1.) Venue-Texas? Are you serious. Vegas is the fight capital, the only reason Arum wanted Texas was because he wanted to work with his buddy Jerry Jones. The same Texas stadium with the $15 seats and the Walmart across the street. 2.) Weight-154. A flat out lie, nobody from Floyd's team ever requested the fight be at 154. 3.) Top billing- Floyd was the champion at 147, and upon returning fought the #1 guy at ww (Mosley).
     
  15. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    How is this a concession :rofl

    "Hey gimme 10 bucks."
    "No."
    "Ok I'll concede... gimme 5 bucks."