The HW division today is as weak as it was in the Lennox Lewis era?

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  1. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You were talking about two good boxers being passed it while still in their twenties
     
  2. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who?
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch Golata was not washed up. Neither was Briggs, Botha, Mercer, Rudduck, Grant, Rahman, or Tua.

    Are you even aware of was Bowe who ducked Lewis? :huh Doesn' look like it.
     
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    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The number of posts don't mean ****. The reason I called you a newb is becuae you made a post that sounds like it came from someone who really doesn't know too much.

    But the fact that you went right to post count, kinda suggests you're just a punk kid. Great....all we need here. :roll:
     
  5. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golota never was great. Proved it in the Tyson and Grant fight.

    Briggs: was never great either.

    Botha: Hahaha Tyson just killed him a year before:)

    Ruddock: Yes he was? After Tyson was done with him, he was never the same.

    Grant: Just another American hype job.

    Tua: Done and done? Was scared of Lewis.

    Rahman: Well he did beat him, didn't he:)
     
  6. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes I do. chicken Bowe? He throw the WBC belt in the garbage? He didn't want to meet Lewis as long as he had the WBC. According to Bowe and his manager.

    Big words from a mature guy. Great:good
     
  7. zenek2

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    There is some point in all that. Lewis became nr 1 HW in 1999 was nr 1 till 2003, in the meantime he gave one of the belts to byrd. It's pretty clear that lewis reign was during very weak times.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol: Look child, you are the one trying to say how weak Lewis' era was and comparable to Vitali's. And then you make this weak ass breakdown that doesn't even go with your supposed topic, that being Lewis' era was as bad as Vitali's. :huh

    Why not go through Vitali's resume, and list ALL the huge accopmplishmentsa his opponents did, IF you are actually going to try and take this pointless route you started.

    Don't worry, I'm fairly sure this went over your head. And you are in the minority big time. Lewis' HW era ias a general consensus, is seen as a much stronger one then today.

    But if you have to beat GREAT Fighters, since you focused on that, WHICH greats did the K bros beat? Way to pain yourself ionto a corner...:roll:
     
  9. Ncc84

    Ncc84 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You said bowe was washed up when Golota out boxed him before getting DQd, and that Morrison was done by the time Lewis beat him, both were in their twenties.

    Lewis has an excellent record, probably with the most consistently high level of opposition of any heavyweight champ, vitali and wlad have also beaten some strong opponents too, but while their opponents are so outclassed they are going to appear weaker. They still have some very good opponents left to face too, Helenius, povetkin fury etc and also vitali still has wlad opponents and vitali has wlads
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

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    :lol: Wow..calling you a punk kid is now IMMATURE to you? :patsch

    JUst STFU...you haven't made one lick of sense.
     
  11. haworths623

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    Lewis faced far better fighters.
     
  12. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    The TS kinda has a point. While Lennox's era did have some quality heavyweights, the more exciting, meaningful fights did not get made:

    Lennox did not fight the following big names:

    Ibeabuchi, Bowe, Byrd (not a challenge for the Lion, but still), Ruiz, a few other less meaningful names come to mind but w/e. Only the first 2 were real beasts, but the point is still the same : Lennox never fought them. He fought a waaaaaay past his prime, shot to **** Tyson, he fought Holyfield on the decline, he fought a few young green hopefuls such as Grant, damaged goods such as Golota and fought Tua on the back foot.

    Now lets look at Klitschkos: Never fought??? No one of merit really, unless you count the cowardly Povetkin that twice backed out of a scheduled fight.
    Vitali fought : On decline Lennox, Prime Byrd, Prime Solis (LOL Solis and prime in the same sentence is funny), Prime Adamek, Prime alebit a bit green Areolla, Prime Johnson (kingpin and Kirk, the later being fat), Hyde relatively Prime, Gomez Prime, a bunch of mid to low level opposition, oh and Brigs, who despite his advanced age was still YOUNGER than Klitschko.

    Wlad: Prime Byrd, Prime Chambers, Prime Haye, Prime Ibragimov, Prime Chagaev, Prime Peter, Prime Mcline, Prime Barett (who recently showed Tua how it's done) etc etc

    One could make an argument that Klitschkos aren't really doing worse than Lennox, although I believe that Lennox would be a nightmare for Wlad, but would be beaten by Vitali with a bit of good luck (no cuts no injuries)
     
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    But Lennox does hold a great distinction over Klitschkos: He beat everyone he faced. I wish Brothers didn't have to worry about their brand so much as to rematch their own fights.
     
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    What about Holyfield and Moore??:lol::lol::lol::lol: Sometimes it's just too easy..............
     
  15. Ncc84

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    so you think a 37 year old lewis against a prime vitali is narrowly behind on the scorecards and starts to turn it around after 3 rounds, but a lewis ten years younger wouldnt do any better? and why would you think a better version of lewis wouldnt be more likely to open up his face