razor ruddock vs jerry quarry??????

Razor Ruddock by brutal mid-round KO.

 

Another big limited slugger for Quarry to take apart.

Razor isn't better than Foster or Lye, in many regards, he's worse. He would spend the entire fight not jabbing and loading up one punch at a time, walking into combinations and getting outboxed. Quarry would brutalize Ruddock's body, something Tyson couldn't be bothered to do and would have benefited from.

 

I don't know if its that simple.. Ruddock had a chin and stamina that neither Shavers nor Foster had, and brought a left hook and left upper cut to the table that I don't know if Quarry ever saw before.. He was also bigger than most of the big men that Jerry faced and had real strength in the clinches... For the record, I wouldn't be surprised to see Quarry lambaste him, but nor would it be shocking to see Donoven score a knockout or stoppage on cuts.... Ruddock has gotten very underrated in head to head matchups since the Lewis defeat...

 

If Morrison could ko Ruddock, then Quarry surely would..not because Jerry frontlined Tommy's level of power, but because he was tougher and smarter in taking apart these type fighters.

 

Jerry could box his way to a clear decision in this one.

 

You may have a good point, but at the time of the Morrison fight, Ruddock had only fought once within a two year period, was now in his early 30's, and may have been diminished from the poundings he took from both Tyson and Lewis... Furthermore, he may also have been the victim of a premmature stoppage.. And Tommy had to rise off the canvas and take some pretty big shots to win as well... It certainly wasn't a cake walk.. Not saying that Quarry wouldn't beat Ruddock but the Morrison fight is probably not the best comparison to use.

Here is the Morrison fight below... Check out time frame 2:50 or thereabouts.. Razor didn't appear to be in very good shape and this was again, the second fight that he had in nearly 3 years after losing to Lewis.. The round was coming to a close when the ref waved it off on the ropes... Ruddock took some huge shots and was probably hurt, but not sure if it needed to be stopped..



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Rudduck is a class above both, better skills, much quicker and more dangerous

Yea Rudduck was far past his best as Quarry was against Norton. Quarry doesn't hit nearly as hard as Morrison either

 

-Shavers maybe. But I haven't seen anything that suggested Ruddock was as durable as Lye or Foster over 12 rounds. Ruddock did bearhug alot, and that was good enough to let him go the distance with a less than impressive Tyson in 1 out of 2 fights despite getting rocked and dropped multiple times.

-Again, if your going to count on beating Quarry you better bring more than one punch wind ups. Maybe he'll get lucky like Chuvalo but that's the extent of his chances in my estimation.

-No, I would say he's been overrated because he did better than expected against a very sloppy Mike Tyson.

 

In the eye of one seriously blind beholder. Ruddock was slow as ****, didn't use any skills, and really..as dangerous as Mac Foster..a guy with a 100% KO ratio and better names on his resume than Ruddock's victims?

"A class" "B class" "Head of the Class" "Cutting Class" "Shop Class" "Class Above" "Class Below" "My ass"

Ruddock was a tough guy who loaded up for the home run shot with little regard for strategy and relied on his physical power to get out of trouble. Nothing more, nothing less. Once upon a time, he had a decent jab but that was a distant memory by the time he stepped up to the big leagues.

 

No jab? No speed? No Skills? Yes slow as **** ok You're an idiot, with no credibility

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Slow as ****? As opposed to that speedster Quarry And go on who did Mac Foster beat that was any good and not shot to pieces?

 

Tyson did a fair amount of holding against Tyson, but those were still huge shots that he was taking, and in so doing managed to promptly return fire.. Not claiming that he was more durable than Foster, but frankly I don't see many big punchers on Mac's list that stand out, except for a throughly shot Williams who didn't last long anyway.

Fair enough, but my only question is how many guys ( if any ) did Quarry fight who had that awkward left hooker-cut that Ruddock had and with that kind of power? I can't draw any conclusions without knowing how he'd react to it, and personally I think Razor would have more opportunities to land his sunday punches than somebody like Shavers who only lasted one round.... No way is Ruddock losing to Jerry in the first..

I actually illuded to the fact that I think he's been underrated, because since losing to Lewis, fans have dismissed his battles with Tyson as a case of Mike being " past it" and haven't given Razor much of a chance against anyone..

Both men's best victories came against past prime foes, but personally I think James Smith and Michael Dokes had more left in the tank at the time they fought Razor than Cleveland Williams or Zora Folley did against Foster.. I mean don't get me wrong.. Dokes and Smith were well beyond prime, but the other two guys were thoroughly shot in most people's eyes..

 

I can't see those videos right now. What fights did you post? If its footage of his upstart days than we both know that is misleading representation of the fighter he would grow into during the apex of his career.

Idiot, crediblity, class above, A list, B list, shitlist.

 

"Tyson did a fair amount of holding against Tyson, but those were still huge shots that he was taking, and in so doing managed to promptly return fire.."

I really don't see hugging Tyson whenever he lost his legs as an arguing point for Ruddock clearly being more durable than Lye or Foster. Am I to believe Ruddock would take bombs from Foreman any better than Lye, or that Ruddock could withstand one body blows better than Foster did against Quarry? I just don't see any evidence that he is somehow extraordinary enough to do it. Quarry is going to be looking for a points win anyway.

"Fair enough, but my only question is how many guys ( if any ) did Quarry fight who had that awkward left hooker-cut that Ruddock had and with that kind of power?"

It was a telegraphed haymaker that he only really landed square on the button with KO power a handful of times. He's not going to hit a moving target with it, hell, he had trouble landing it on Tyson as he walked in straight up, couldn't get the same extension and leverage he did for Dokes.

"I actually illuded to the fact that I think he's been underrated, because since losing to Lewis, fans have dismissed his battles with Tyson as a case of Mike being " past it" and haven't given Razor much of a chance against anyone.."

No, see Power Puncher. Who wants to argue he is a FULL CLASS ABOVE Lye and Foster in every category.


"Both men's best victories came against past prime foes, but personally I think James Smith and Michael Dokes had more left in the tank at the time they fought Razor than Cleveland Williams or Zora Folley did against Foster.. I mean don't get me wrong.. Dokes and Smith were well beyond prime, but the other two guys were thoroughly shot in most people's eyes."

Arguing who's build up opponents was more PAST IT is splitting some thin tedious hairs. The point was that neither guy had really fought anybody,though Foster emerged with the stronger KO ratio. How one could come to conclusion that Ruddock is clealry more dangerous, is beyond me.

 

A guy who can't box against an opponent who made a career out of exposing limited punchers. I see Quarry coming up with another win here.

There was a time when Ruddock looked like he could box, but that was a time when he was stopped by the likes of David Jaco. Once he got bigger and stronger, he lost the mobility and the skill as he realized he could knock people out.