Pac wants to Murder Marquez Latest Training Video!

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  1. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The US Olympic Committee have no issues testing... I agree... but BLOOD testing is NOT the perferred form of testing, nor is it the kind of test that catches the most dirty athletes.

    They'll test URINE all the way up to the day of....but Blood testing is NOT a practice that the Olympic Committee or WADA will enforce up to the day of a boxing match. There's too many risks to be responsible for.

    Shane and Ortiz hit the lotto with Floyd...they'd cut off their left toe to fight Floyd for that payday. They agreed to Floyd's demands b/c the money was too great to pass up.

    No one else demanded PAC take tests...no other fighters are demanded to take these Floyd required tests. Why are you crying about PAC not agreeing to them right up front?

    And common sense would let you know why PAC didn't accept Floyd's demands.:lol:

    Let's reverse the roles...lets say PAC was the one who blasted unsubstantiated accusations about Floyd being a cheat...then demanded Floyd HAVE to take his tests..... Floyd would have told PAC to **** off and claimed Manny ducked him..

    Which is why everyone is saying Floyd ducked PAC and used the tests as his excuse.
     
  2. RockyMartinez

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    I wonder if his legs will start hurting? Lets hope for less kissing and cuddling this fight
     
  3. SweetHome_Bama

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    Wrong again, blood testing the the most thorough testing along with hair, not urine testing. As for when they blood test Micheal PHelps was tested repeatedly the day of his races and at times between races, during his run in Beijing, so you further show you don't know what you are talking about.

    Why Shane and Vic did it is irrelevant, the only fact that really matters is they had no problems taking the test.

    It doesn't matter if anyone else demanded Manny takes a test, Floyd as of now demands everyone who fights him take the test.

    So again tell me why is it that now Manny has no problem with OSDT? If that is the case why did he kill the negotiations initally? If he wants to fight Floyd why won't he just take the test?
     
  4. KnuckleUp99

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    Hair is the best overall but the most effective is urine. Most who are caught filing are caught by urine testing. Swimmers are allowed to cover exposed areas where testing took place...boxers are not in the ring. You don't know much about boxing but a whole lot about swimming.

    Shane and Vic agreeing to Floyds demands is irrelevant with regards to Pac not agreeing.

    Floyd now demands tests for everyone only after singling out Pac....he had to keep up the with his story about wanting to clean up boxing or face criticism that he ducked Pac.

    Floyd killed the fight after he stated with the accusations followed up with the demands. Pac wants the fight more than Floyd which is obvious... He's bending over backwards to corner him and Floyd still won't man up.

    You really can't make a man do something he just doesn't want to do.
     
  5. SweetHome_Bama

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    Olympic boxers undergo the same tests that Phelps and went through so what point are you trying to make?

    You still can't answer the simple question though. Manny now has no problem OSDT. So why did he kill the fight over it? Why won't he take the tests and get the fight over with?
     
  6. boxing_RN

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    Now you're just trolling. Your ***** ass just got owned. Sucks doesn't it :yep
     
  7. SweetHome_Bama

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    Manny said he has no problem with OSDT now though?

    So why didn't he take it initially?

    It is the question reasonable must ask, what made him cancel the fight if he now agrees to take the tests?
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

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    Olympic boxers aren't blood tested the day of fights...nor in professional boxing are there any form of invasive testing on the day of a sanctioned bout...EVER! Afterwards absolutely....which is what Tyson had approved for the Holyfield fight.

    And I did answer your question son.. Testing was never the issue for PAC.. Floyd was.... If Floyd really wanted the fight do you think he'd start things off with some pretty damaging accusations that he had absolutely no foundation to spread. Or come up with special testing for the guy you supposedly want to fight?

    I'm sorry but I'm interested in how you take those actions from Floyd as saying "I want to fight".
     
  9. Knives7

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    The only way for Pacquiao to move down in the P4P list is if he loses this fight. MP(5'6) and JMM(5'7) are about the same height and their hydration will be similar (probably 147 or 148).

    Many think that Pacquiao has the advantage in this fight. IMO, it will still be close. He knows how to time Pacquiao's aggression (PAC-JMM 2). The weight has nothing to do with the outcome. They'll be both healthy because they wouldn't have need to worthy about draining themselves to make weight.
     
  10. Knives7

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    Now because Fraud is being stubborn he wants to make the fight happen.

    Before? He doesn't need to bend over and accept such a stupid demand. He canceled? The fight was never signed. Pac changed his plans because Mayweather is being stubborn and he can't wait any longer because he was campaigning to be a congressman in his home country.

    Let me asked you what is Floyd Mayweather's basis for accusing Pacquiao of drugs?

    He said he wants to clean the sport but why didn't he asked 40 of his previous opponents or at least when he came back from his "retirement" to take a blood test?

    Why did he declared that Pacquiao would be his next opponent and then told the reporters that he didn't say that?

    This is all legitimate questions too. Care to answer them.
     
  11. SweetHome_Bama

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    Wrong again, Olympic boxers can be tested at any time, that includes the day of the fight, because it is RANDOM blood testing. Giving blood and the amount needed for testing also isn't invasive at the least.

    As for my question you never answered it.

    Why is Manny ok with OSDT now and that is the case why did he scrap the fight over it initially? Why couldn't he take the test?
     
  12. KnuckleUp99

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    It's RANDOM TESTING which include blood and urine... mostly urine. And NEVER have they've tested any olympic or pro boxer on the day of a scheduled bout. And you need to learn what "invasive" means and how blood is extracted from the human body. This will be interesting.

    And I did answer.... I'm not here to save you though... But don't give up kid... I have faith you're not a lost cause.
     
  13. el mosquito

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    Pac really had an issue with blood testing on the day of the fight as he had a bad experience when he fought Morales for the first time. After that fight, he gave an interview saying his arms felt powerless due to the blood testing and he wanted to file a complaint due to the unprofessional actions of the commission.

    then here comes mayweather with a OSDT demand. Pacquiao said no initially although he agreed to a certain cut-off date on Blood testing but also agreed to have his urine tested every day, and be blood tested right after the fight. Notice that this concession is still a lot stricter than any drug testing procedure by any commission, so saying that he don't wanna get tested is bull****. Mayweather still did not agree and gave another cut off date. the negotiation was dragging for too long and Pacquiao wanted to get a fight immediately because he was also preparing to run for Congress which is only three or four months away then. Any delay would cost him his campaign, so he agreed to fight Clottey instead.

    After Clottey, PAcquiao and his team immediately get back on the negotiation table the second time around and he was more willing to concede on the cut-off dates but Mayweather's camp refused to negotiate this time and even lied that it never happened. Mayweather took a vacation. then floyd (while on vacation) made videos which says he's no longer accepting cut off dates, he want full random testing.

    Pacquiao agreeing fully to the OSDT now only proves that he is willing and he really wants to fight Floyd. he had said it alot of times, he would agree to the testing demand. Arum had said it and clarified it as well. Arum's only demand is that while in a Philippine training camp, a WADA-approved agency should oversee the testing and that the results should also be sent to the governing commission.

    Until now, Floyd refuses to acknowledge that pac is willing to take the test while he prattles with his "take the test" bull****, ignoring the recent developments on Pacquiao's concession.
     
  14. SweetHome_Bama

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    Wrong, they can randomly test you for blood or urine, however it comes up and yes they can do it the day of competition or more than once on the day.

    Drawing blood for testing isn't invasive, sprinters and swimmers have shown us this.

    You haven't answered anything, how can he claim he has no problem with OSDT now, but call the fight earlier? Why didn't he take the test initially?

    Manny had a problem handing a boxer, that is what happend with Morales. First it was the gloves, and footwear, then he switched to his blood. They are all lies, he was beaten by a better boxer.

    No one has refused to acknowledge Manny's change of heart, we will see the truth after the Marquez fight though, if he has no problems with the tests he should immediately agree to OSDT and get the fight made.
     
  15. Gander Tasco

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    ^ OSDT wont make the fight happen , how much do you wanna bet on this? Even if one or both sides supposedly aggrees the other will just say their lying or attack their credibility or osmething. There's too much ego involved, and Floyd simply does not want to fight Pacquiao. He can make a ton of money fighting lesser fighters , he said this himself. Even if they do agree, there's gonna be another roadblock, probably the purse split. Floyd will demand the bigger share of the purse bc 'hes the cash cow of boxing' or some other bs . Just let it go people , this **** is becoming unhealthy.