Froch has beaten good fighers that all had Huge flaws

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  1. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Beating him clearly requires Kessler winning few rounds, he won none, he was absolutely demolished. Now on Kessler's [Huge] "weaknesses" you just pointed out the he doesn't excels in some departments same with Bika.
    I said good fighters... to be excluded-[Allan Green]
     
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    I never said Kessler has huge weaknesses, but he has some, you can deny that. No offense but this thread is predictable, you can pick holes in almost any fighters opposition, but you're only doing it with Froch because you are obviously biased. And even in taking Green out of the discussion, all of Wards opponents have flaws, just as Froch's do. I think its pretty clear cut that froch has the best current resume of any 168 pounder around:good
     
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    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    I just said he resumee is not as great as some make it look. For example I rate Ward schooling of at that time #1 SMW, Kessler above every win Froch has.The same Kessler who's been outclassed by Ward has beaten Froch. That's the whole reason that I'll say Ward above Froch at SMW
    Froch same as Bute same as Ward or Kessler would have to prove they are the best against each other.The others are less important unless they start being really impressive in their next fight(Dirrell).
    I think Froch's wins against: Pascal and Dirrell are great but these wins get minimized because one has incurable stamina issues and the other has incurable "heart" issues and was extremely green. Are you sure Froch could win a rematch against Dirrel, I'm not.
    Ward beat one of what we could call the current SMW "fab four".
     
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    Okay ....

    Let's talk about Bute's opponents now. :hat
     
  5. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    :nono
    Bute is taboo in here.
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    The only flawed thing about Dirrell was the fact the fight was in England. Or else Froch loses handily.
     
  7. Big Left

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    honestly, Dirrell is a mental midget - he was scared in the fight against froch, faked the KO against AA cause he was not 100% sure of winning and faked a brain injury to get out of a career ending defeat to Ward.

    But apart from that he has no flaws :rofl:rofl
     
  8. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch lost to Kessler by a round, should have lost to Dirrell, and beat Taylor only because Taylor can't fight 12 rounds without gassing completely. He put in impressive performances against Abraham and Johnson. His resume is what it is. He's fought everyone they've put in front him, and always with tons of heart and determination. I used to dislike him greatly back in the day when he was calling out Calzaghe ad nauseum, but he made me a fan over time. Bute has fought cab drivers by comparison. Ward will school them both.
     
  9. Sidious

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    the fight should have happen in Michigan no doubt,cause direll was the star in that fight obvious.
     
  10. Sidious

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    right...but before he should ask Dr.Shaw-Hi if he is allowed to fight again,i hear he cut himself when he was shaving and he can't fight anymore,just like his buddy direll.us should look for smw fighters outside the circus,we are sick of your clowns
     
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    He won none? Why did the judges then give him 2-3 rounds before the head-buts took effect - and in Oakland of all places?
     
  12. bailey

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    Im a massive Froch fan but do agree with you. Still the main thing is most of the time Froch has won.
    Your post opens holes in the hole division though as Bute was lucky not to be KOd by Andrade.
    Ward didnt beat Abraham as clearly as Froch, Miranda and Bika as clearly as Bute or Green as clearly as Johnson.

    The SMW division is hyped better than ever now due to the S6 and with America having a world champ again after not having one in the division since Lacy who was also massively hyped and actually looked better than Ward (yes I said that). But I dont think the division is as strong as it was a few years back. Just noticed due to the above
     
  13. Sidious

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    Super champion even...and he literary fought no one for this super champ crap (that's for those who say bute fights no one)
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats right. Bika who Bute had beaten clearer, Green who was beaten by Miranda and AA who had been clearly exposed at SMW and all nice and local to home whilst Froch has had to travel for his last 3 fights and will do so again to fight Ward

    Dont be silly. We know that American SMWs cant win big fights in Europe away from their comfort zones.
    Look at the examples -
    J Taylor, C Brewer, B Mitchell, A Dirrell, J Lacy, O Sheika, P Manfredo, L Holmes, G Johnson (fights out of America), L Andrade (fights out of America), J Butler etc All top 10 SMWs and thats not anywhere near the whole of it.

    With these facts its no wonder Ward didnt want to travel throughout the S6 and wanted to stay in America
     
  15. Tyler-Durden

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    A Butard criticizing Carl's resume sounds pretty funny to me TBH.

    And I'm even a Bute fan.